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Post by MrBruce on Aug 24, 2016 1:54:51 GMT
I like using team speak, however, I always have to locate my microphone and re-set my audio properties, since I use a USB dongle as my recording device to record physical media such as vinyl records to my hard drive for adding into Zara Radio's play list, which is on a different computer.
Sometimes, it's a bit tedious to keep switching those properties, or I get so involved in my in studio activities I forget about the monthly meetings.
Sometimes, the meetings are educational, other times it's like being on a 2 meters net. No pun intended there.
I like to talk about part 15, there because it is private and the moderation is very laxed.
I too, just like the others here are stating, would like to have a real FCC rep on the team speak chat with us live, where we can ask questions.
Has anyone thought about that idea?
Could we get an FCC official on the ALPB team speak meetings with us, where they could clear up a lot of the confusion?
Could we contact the FCC audio division and voice our concerns that we need a live FCC spokes person answering questions from a group of concerned part 15 users, who are confused about the legal operation of said part 15 devices and get someone to join in live and answer our questions?
Bruce.
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Post by craigf on Aug 24, 2016 2:08:08 GMT
Hi Craig: Carl and I talked and cleared up stuff I did give permission to carl to record what we talked about. I would to stayed in longer if I knew you where coming in, I put my stuff up. You can get the recorded information or I can meet you on team speak if you like OK up too you Station 8 Thanks for the update! I would like to get the recording. I will have time to listen tomorrow at work. I have a house full here now.. My wife says I can't play radio all the time.. silly her!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 2:21:51 GMT
Priority DeliveryThe Conversation held this evening between Jeff Station8 and myself is available now courtesy of the ALPB and these part15 websites. RAW FOOTAGE FROM TEAMSPEAK
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Post by MrBruce on Aug 24, 2016 10:30:58 GMT
Listen, Ill say it again.
We have a team speak server for the ALPB meetings.
Why can't someone in this hobby invite an FCC agent, or FCC represenitive to one of our scheduled meetings, where questions and speculation can be put out there to clear up all these misunderstandings??
I mean, radio stations invite guests into their studios and do on-air interviews, what can't we schedule this type of thing for a future ALPB meeting?
I mean, is it too hard for the membership at either part15.us or the ALPB to ask local field agents to attend a meeting and better inform this part 15 community of the facts and myths that plauge us so much?
If enough of us ask, we just might get a live guest, whose credentials prove hes qualified to answer our questions accrately and professionally.
It would also make for a great part 15 re-broadcast on our part 15 stations, which would be a ratings riser in any low powered radio, community, specifcally part 15 AM.
We have any takers out there?
Please step right up and let me know what you think.
Bruce. BY the way, don't know if my pc is haunted or not, but things I type don't always come out that way once it's posted to the board, thank God for the edit button!!!
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Post by station8 on Aug 24, 2016 11:00:59 GMT
Hi Mr.Bruce: It will NOT hurt to ask a Fcc agent if they they can do a interview with us. WE WILL ASK OK!
But keep in mind we need to see allot more people into team speak just so we can have allot of
Various question to ask the agent at that time.
And if we can get an agent I would say is to write your question down on what you would like answered
And compare notes before talking to agent from having repeat questions.
BUT keep in mind each agent worked in there own specific department so we would need to do several show with various agents.
To get the answer that we need about part 15 from setup to operation on air.
I hope this helps
Station 8
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 13:21:35 GMT
FCC Agent At ALPB Meeting
MrBruce suggests: "Why can't someone in this hobby invite an FCC agent, or FCC represenitive to one of our scheduled meetings, where questions and speculation can be put out there to clear up all these misunderstandings??"
It is a good idea MrBruce, and at several meetings we have actually talked about the idea and kicked it around a little bit, but like Jeff Station8 points out, one factor we thought was important was to build our membership a little more so the guest would be speaking to more than three or four people.
Also, the FCC person would need to install and configure his computer for TeamSpeak, and that could be a deal killer.
Carl Blare (me) has also considered having an FCC representative as guest on the Low Power Hour, and this idea is still active... I'm rebuilding my telephone hybrid at this time and once it's operative interviews will resume.
I would finally add this thought... I think the part 15 hobby itself needs promotion and boosting to get more people active in the hobby for the support of the kits and equipment presently available. Ramsey kits have already pulled out because of weak sales, and other part 15 gear could disappear as well.
Part 15 low power broadcasting is the world's most intelligent hobby and only the smartest discover it and get involved.
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Post by mighty1650 on Aug 24, 2016 14:00:00 GMT
Or you know, just patch teamspeak into a telephone hybrid. Pretty easy to do. No need though, I got a great laugh out of our engineers and FCC lawyer when I brought all this up and showed it to them.
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Post by MrBruce on Aug 24, 2016 14:54:06 GMT
Or you know, just patch teamspeak into a telephone hybrid. Pretty easy to do. No need though, I got a great laugh out of our engineers and FCC lawyer when I brought all this up and showed it to them. Ha ha ho ho! But they're not laughing when a part 15 operator unintentionally interferes with one of their clients and steps on their bread and butter do they? Sorry I think I need to laugh at them, they're one of the main causes that pirates say the hell with it and take over the dial. Sure they get caught, but there are plenty more that take their place, thus you have a game called wack-a-mole. But, ask them for some type of help and they laugh? Not very professional in my book, but hopefully you were only kidding? Bruce.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 14:58:52 GMT
Agendas To Come
Mr. Mighty 1650 says: "Or you know, just patch teamspeak into a telephone hybrid. Pretty easy to do."
That will be something to discuss at the next ALPB meeting September 3rd.
The advantage of a membership organization is that discussions can be postponed until the next meeting, then "high level" talks can begin, leading to the appointment of sub-committees who can take the subject "under advisement".
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Post by MrBruce on Aug 24, 2016 15:07:01 GMT
Well I think promotion should be placed at the part 15 AM & FM Facebook page, Troy is good at promotions he could post about membership and hopefully no one will think it's SPAM and the people will join, hopefully, and then as long as we interest them, they'll hang out until we get someone who knows about FCC part 15 at the FCC bureau and get some questions answered and de-myth this hobby's do's and don'ts.
On the other hand, maybe I should do it, or someone else? I don't think Troy is very well liked over there right now, sad to say.
I'm open to suggestions though.
Bruce.
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Post by mighty1650 on Aug 24, 2016 17:16:17 GMT
With the latest events having Troy post about it would not be advised, I'd wait a few weeks on that. It appears that whole bunch is on thin ice at the moment with several folks in the community.
As far as the engineers and lawyer laughing, that was due to the sheer absurdness of it all. Keep in mind these folks are friends of mine and the radio company, rest assured that Part 15 is safe and license free. And no, we do not laugh at pirates, we take piracy quite seriously when it interferes with a licensed facility. Otherwise let it be, no need to bring the FCC to town if we don't have too. Remember, even the licensed stations don't want the FCC sniffing around town in case they find a violation. The FCC typically inspects licensed stations if they are in the area.
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Post by mighty1650 on Aug 24, 2016 17:21:34 GMT
To clarify, they are laughing at the fact anybody believed this. Especially considering the Part 15 rules are pretty damn plainly spelled out and the zillions of devices that operate under part 15 that would make licensing impractical.
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Post by MrBruce on Aug 24, 2016 18:31:41 GMT
To clarify, they are laughing at the fact anybody believed this. Especially considering the Part 15 rules are pretty damn plainly spelled out and the zillions of devices that operate under part 15 that would make licensing impractical. I am not kissing your butt or anything, but I do see what you mean. There is hope, I do see that and I do understand there is a right way and a wrong way to go about everything we do, again, I'm not kissing anyone's butt here, just thinking with my brain and not my pride LOL! Bruce.
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Post by thelegacy on Aug 24, 2016 19:07:58 GMT
I don't need the ridicule and abuse anymore. We tried for participation since June 5th 2015 and at first things were pretty good so long as everyone got their own way. But when we set up a members only section of our site things got dicey from a few. Too much fighting rather than trying to fix a problem in which I though everyone would be a part of.
We're sorry about conflicting information that we got from different agents of the FCC but again if they can't tell US RIGHT, how can we give others the right information. Yes thank God for all of you that you guys were right.
As far as part 15 law changes for improvement The New Radio Revolution is not going to mess with part 15 and go a new route with the few active loyal members it has. No more public information will be given to the rest of the part 15 community. I myself, nor anyone of our members need the headache and hardship as if we owe the world something. We did advise others to do their homework. Instead it was all splattered on us and we were the ones the whole part 15 community wanted to mack. I'm done with it already.
People's paranoia and unwillingness to try and understand what we are trying to achieve is just something I can't wrap my head around. So just like anything else abuse caused our decision to no longer worry about part 15 law unless we start to see more participation and homework from others in the hobby.
When the FCC gave us the first bit of wrong information I was doubtful for part 15 and knew I was to be ridiculed I expected it and I already knew that if it got to a point we'd go our separate ways. So now if you want to change your laws have at it. But you have a real uphill battle not only with the FCC, but among each other from what I see.
Its been fun but we're going to get something done and we don't need the ridicule anymore and heartache its not work all of it. Good luck in flycasing.
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Post by MrBruce on Aug 24, 2016 19:17:40 GMT
Troy, you know I belileve in you, but at times you do go head strong and that is one of your major set backs.
Why not try being a follower for a bit and let someone else carry the torch for a bit, take a rest and maybe, if you can do that, even for just a little bit, other people might just be able to get the attention of the bigger part 15 community and get more supporters for what may be possible from your list of ideas?
Edited to add: Troy you know I want the rules changed a bit, I'm not asking for a mini LPFM or LPAM per se, but I do believe the power levels for both AM and FM are a bit out of date and should be allowed a SLIGHT increase in both bands, I just wanted you and everyone else to know that.
Bruce.
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