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Post by End80 on Mar 19, 2017 8:37:30 GMT
One station that immediately comes to mind is KENC, a very successful part15 stationed that used 3 Rangemasters scattered throughout the town, don't know specifically what method he used to distribute the audio feeds, but whatever it was certainly worked. The only thing that didn't work for him was the long grounds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:10:53 GMT
Pin the Tail On the CityEnd80 experiences memory slip: " I know a touch about WOR which came up from research of the OTR "Quiet Please" program, WOR was never a network, it was just a Chicago station that was an affiliate of the Mutual Broadcasting System which competed second place to ABC." WOR was in what city?
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Mar 19, 2017 15:18:54 GMT
As for pirate radio, in my experience pirates are usually spitting out over modulated garbage with little regard to who they might be interfering with. What you want is LPFM, which we have. Hell just go buy one and move it, there are several failed LPFM stations that have gone dark. Not that easy. Our LPFM is shoe-horned in among several full power FM's. If we tried to move the antenna 4 miles in any direction we would be off the air. |
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Post by End80 on Mar 19, 2017 15:30:19 GMT
Pin the Tail On the CityEnd80 experiences memory slip: " I know a touch about WOR which came up from research of the OTR "Quiet Please" program, WOR was never a network, it was just a Chicago station that was an affiliate of the Mutual Broadcasting System which competed second place to ABC." WOR was in what city? Yeah.. I meant New York, Chicago is where Cooper started the "Lights Out' program, same writer as Quiet Please... I screwed that up. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:41:53 GMT
Easy To Deal With
End80 responds: "I screwed that up."
No big deal. If I screwed something up I would hope to be as big a man as you by admitting it. For the time being I am stuck with a perfect record of never having screwed anything up, but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen.
At first I thought maybe WOR might have started in Chicago and later moved to New York. I didn't know.
I do believe that New York wasn't always New York... I think it was originally "New Amsterdam", but that might have been before the invention of radio.
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Post by part15engineer on Mar 19, 2017 15:52:08 GMT
many years back CRTC had a prohibition on broadcasting the same programming (networking / Simulcasting) on more than one undertaking for either BETS-1 or RSS123. it appears from my quick google search that they may have dropped that prohibition?
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Post by mark on Mar 19, 2017 16:00:39 GMT
I don't know about that, but the CRTC in Canada once had a rule that to keep variety in any market two radio stations couldn't play the same thing as someone else in any one market.
What happened to that as the majority of stations are all the same as each other.
Mark
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Post by mighty1650 on Mar 19, 2017 23:55:25 GMT
Not that easy. Our LPFM is shoe-horned in among several full power FM's. If we tried to move the antenna 4 miles in any direction we would be off the air. Never said it'd be easy, its doable but not easy nor cheap. If LPFM is anything like LPTV (which in most aspects it is not), the license doesn't have to cover the city of license. For LPTV this has resulted in a number of stations being relocated far from their COLs to cover other larger cities. I've seen a few LPFM licenses that only have a 50dbu over their COL, so I'm led to believe LPFMs can move. You bring up an excellent point of why just anybody can't toss a multiwatt signal on the air, ya'll had to be made to fit. The case is the same at my location where the FM band is full and the only open channels are jammed with LPFMs and Translators. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 0:09:28 GMT
Low Power FM Here
In the surrounding area the placement of LPFMs and translators seems to depend entirely on where the available antenna locations are.
Being mostly flat terrain, I doubt that it would be easy to find a well located place to build a new tower, and thus far all of them are on the few towers and tall buildings available.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Mar 20, 2017 1:29:48 GMT
Where can I find more info on this Gerry Gaule situation? i feel the same way but too many part 15 broadcasters are inadvertently roped into the pirate category by overzealous agents even though they were attempting to be compliant but were found to be slightly out of compliance and then there is the gerry gaule situation where he was in a situation where it was near impossible to be out of compliance and his equipment was confiscated anyway and his landlord pressured to intimidate gerry into turning over his talking house to the fcc. i fear under this renewed push against pirates we may see more of this nationwide. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 1:59:14 GMT
Iceberg TipsThe FCC bringdown of Gerald Gaule is better known by others who we hope to hear from, but for starters this link to the American Senior Radio Network includes an article about Mr. Gaule by scrolling down a little. The Trail of Gerald Gaule
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Post by End80 on Mar 20, 2017 2:14:19 GMT
What are you all talking about? The Gerry Gaulle situation was a lot of hupla, conspiracy theories, and alarm over nothing. The guy was obviously operating illegally though he claimed to have been using a stock Talking House. But it took a while for the truth to come out due to Gerry keeping mum about it. Why do you'all want to make it out like he was unjustly treated again?
www.part15.us/comment/27070#comment-27070pt (save yourself some time and go to post#59 and #72 and. #90 and you can keep reading after that if you want but there no point to.. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 2:49:39 GMT
Gerry Gaulle never backed down from stating that he was just using an unmodified, certified, Talking House. He was using the supplied wire antenna and no extra ground wire - he was relying on the grounding supplied by the wall plug outlet.
Do you have proof that he was operating illegally?
His situation illustrates quite dramatically the problems with the FCC rules. Why was the Talking House certified if operating it on the second floor of a house or apartment is illegal? Shouldn't that be mentioned in the Talking House documentation, which by the way, is part of the certification? If it is only certified when operating on the ground floor, say so. Realistically, few are going to have a field strength meter to determine if they are over some limit. Which is never mentioned in the rules and so is undefined, but obviously the FCC uses some value.
From what I understand, the FCC was operating on a complaint from a licensed station, and likely would have found something to shut down Gerry, regardless of whether he was operating 'legally' or not. If he was actually doing what he said he was doing, then I say he was legal, period.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 3:05:19 GMT
Caught Off Guard
End80 Radio turns my whole world around by saying: "The guy was obviously operating illegally."
That surprises me because I've never heard anyone say anything about Gerald actually violating the rules. I seem to recall seeing a NOV or a NOUO that was short on specifics and never mentioned 15.219 at all.
But, being a believer in End80's sincerity, I will re-open the matter and read the links given above to learn whatever new information is to be found.
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Post by thelegacy on Mar 20, 2017 3:07:26 GMT
i can only imagine how many FM transmitters it would take me to go from my house to the Deltavill Market. Each TX would need cellular internet with UNLIMITED DATA. Verizon has 4 lines for $45 each.
Now I'll need WATER PROOF CASES. Maybe all smartphones to be waterproof. Every 300 feet I need a TX and Verizon smartphone. So each Samsung Galaxy Note 5 is $65/no on top of the $ 45/month. So we are talking $110/phone every 300 feet.
1 mile is 5280 feet so now Delta ville market is 1 1/4 miles. Let's go 2 miles just for a buffer. So now I need 10560 feet. 10560/300 is 35.2. ok 36 transmitters and smartphones will be needed. Now $125X35 is 4500 we need the phones now 36X 65 is 2340 now the service per month 36X45 is $1620/MONTHLY a total of 3960/month.
If we get it legal for 2 miles which would you do? I guess I need to start begging.
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