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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 0:05:22 GMT
I'm speechless too.
How this thread became one of discrimination and race is beyond me.
Music is truly universal, and transcends race, sex, religion, politics, etc. I respect anyone who creates it, or attempts to create it. Whether I like it or not is immaterial.
Radio stations have the freedom to play whatever they want, as long as they meet whatever content rules exist for their particular country. And people have the right to listen, to not listen, or to create alternative, licensed or Part 15 radio stations of their own, as they see fit.
People tend to gravitate towards the music they grew up with. With me, it was the 60s to 70s (with some 80s thrown in), with my parents it was the 40s & 50s. I remember my father stating point blank to me that the new rock and roll music was garbage. It's only been later in life that I grew to appreciate some of their music, such as jazz and classical - that was because I kept an open mind, and didn't summarily dismiss it. I find it more difficult to do that with rap, hip hop and electronic music. But then I remind myself that electronic music really had its start in the new wave 80s movement, and some of the music that came out of that is incredible.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 2:07:53 GMT
Turned Out Well
On the race thing I believe we very successfully went from a possible misunderstanding to a BETTER understanding of how un-racial things are with low power radio; to quote DavidC how Universal music is and how International our purpose is here at the ALPB.
I'm thinking it's mostly college and LPFMs that have a category called World Music, which I think is pretty much anything and everything. That can be good sometimes.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 2:21:36 GMT
This Might Be a Good Thread To Say Something Else
This thread began with a renewed refreshed definition describing what the ALPB is all about. We are a membership group in support of legal low power radio broadcasting in the world. Mighty fine.
But we are also supportive of the individual station's right to program anything they want.
It enters my mind that a low power station might align itself with the Trump Pence Sessions DeVos brand of Theocratic White Nationalism and although that would be disappointing the ALPB would likely take the high rode and provide supportive information to such a station.
There might be a cutoff point where tolerance wouldn't hold up... imagine a Nazi or KKK radio station.
But right now there's no policy in place to deal with such an event because it hasn't happened.
We could talk about it at a meeting. Or we could leave it alone.
What's for dinner?
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Post by jimhenry2000 on May 12, 2017 2:33:45 GMT
This thread makes me SO HAPPY that I have zero interest in music of any kind. Thus my opinion is, no opinion. This Might Be a Good Thread To Say Something ElseThis thread began with a renewed refreshed definition describing what the ALPB is all about. We are a membership group in support of legal low power radio broadcasting in the world. Mighty fine. But we are also supportive of the individual station's right to program anything they want. It enters my mind that a low power station might align itself with the Trump Pence Sessions DeVos brand of Theocratic White Nationalism and although that would be disappointing the ALPB would likely take the high rode and provide supportive information to such a station. There might be a cutoff point where tolerance wouldn't hold up... imagine a Nazi or KKK radio station. But right now there's no policy in place to deal with such an event because it hasn't happened. We could talk about it at a meeting. Or we could leave it alone. What's for dinner?
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 2:41:12 GMT
Could It Be?
Mister Henry says: "This thread makes me SO HAPPY that I have zero interest in music of any kind."
Carl has a hunch that Jim gets pleasure out of not getting pleasure from music.
That seems like "liking music" in a negative sense.
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Post by Boomer on May 12, 2017 4:38:11 GMT
One show I've run for a long time and still occasionally do is Captain Fred's World Cruise, over at Radio 4 All, a world music program featuring new artists. It's been around since the era of cassette distributed shows.
It's good to remember that the idea of 'music radio' didn't really arrive until after the 1950s and the popularity of TV. TV made radio stations have to look for a new audience, and they found it with teens and rock and roll, which stratified into different formats in the 1960s and '70s.
There was a point when FM became Top Dog as a broadcast band, and before other competition was really in play yet. Quality music came out at that time, but competition was fierce and stations had such tight formatting turf, which they'd defend by cutting other formats down with disrespect, and listeners were brought into the fight. That was a part of the game I didn't like, since I enjoyed other kinds of music and crossover songs.
Now, radio broadcasting before the 1950s did have music programs, but also a good bit of news, radio plays and talk shows.
I have a friend who also isn't really into music and DJs, he's a morning show bit maker, and he used to think that music was just a thing to attract people's attention to a station so they'd hear your programming.
What are you thinking about running on your station, Jim Henry?
Boomer
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on May 12, 2017 12:31:58 GMT
But then I remind myself that electronic music really had its start in the new wave 80s movement, and some of the music that came out of that is incredible.Case in point: Tears for Fears.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 13:02:02 GMT
The Very Beginnings of Electronic Music
KDX has a large collection of electronic music that exists as part of our production library, as we view it more as "sound" than music.
In 1952 the Louisville Orchestra commissioned Otto Luening and Vladimir Ussachevsky, members of the faculty at Columbia University, to compose "A Poem for Cycles and Bells for Tape Recorder and Orchestra" which was recorded by Composers Recordings, Inc.,CRI-112, with Members of the Royal Danish Orchestra conducted by Otto Luening with Technical Supervision by Vladimir Ussachevsky. On the same album is "A Piece for Tape Recorder" by Ussachevsky.
Another pioneer in the field is Edgar Varese with his "Poeme Electronique" created directly on Magnetic Tape for the 1858 Brussels World's Fair, Columbia Record ML 5478.
By my memory the first electronic recordings to become widely popular were produced on the Moog Synthesizer by Walter Carlos in the late 1960s/early 1970s (later changed to Wendy Carlos), especially the "Switched on Bach Series", which received air play on hard rock FM stations of the time.
KDX airs an hour of current electronic music Saturday night on the program "Bamboo Thoughts" with plenty of free material from Archive.org.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 13:34:41 GMT
Or The Pet Shop Boys, Images in Vogue (a Canadian band), etc.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 13:37:35 GMT
While music appears to be the most prevalent broadcast today (followed by talk), I have a particular interest in spoken drama. The golden age shows such as Lux Theater, Lights Out, etc. were particularly effective on radio because 1) they featured talented actors & voices (without the emphasis of appearance) and 2) were well written. Both attributes are missing today in most video productions.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 13:48:33 GMT
Speaking of Spoken
YES to high quality spoken word performance in the radio medium!
It really matured into a high art but was forced to die by market forces being overwhelmed by television.
Many attempts have gone on to revive and relive the great days of the radio stage, but nothing seems to have caught on.
Long after the U.S. radio industry closed the door on radio drama Radio Canada International continued producing high quality dramatic programs... I have a link somewhere if I can find it.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on May 12, 2017 13:57:32 GMT
Mister Blare (If that's really your name) is quoted: "Another pioneer in the field is Edgar Varese..."
DHR adds: "The above referenced person was an inspiration to Mister Frank Zappa."
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Post by mark on May 12, 2017 15:03:05 GMT
While music appears to be the most prevalent broadcast today (followed by talk), I have a particular interest in spoken drama. The golden age shows such as Lux Theater, Lights Out, etc. were particularly effective on radio because 1) they featured talented actors & voices (without the emphasis of appearance) and 2) were well written. Both attributes are missing today in most video productions. There's a Hamilton AM station here that reruns original golden age of radio dramas every night from 10:30 till 1:00AM and I would rather have this than TV any day. In the 70s E G Marshal narrated a series of horror/mystery radio plays that was on every evening for a year or so and they are on you tube now. You use your brain to imagine the places and people. Mark
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on May 12, 2017 16:54:02 GMT
While music appears to be the most prevalent broadcast today (followed by talk), I have a particular interest in spoken drama. The golden age shows such as Lux Theater, Lights Out, etc. were particularly effective on radio because 1) they featured talented actors & voices (without the emphasis of appearance) and 2) were well written. Both attributes are missing today in most video productions. There's a Hamilton AM station here that reruns original golden age of radio dramas every night from 10:30 till 1:00AM and I would rather have this than TV any day. In the 70s E G Marshal narrated a series of horror/mystery radio plays that was on every evening for a year or so and they are on you tube now. You use your brain to imagine the places and people. Mark We run Old Time Radio on our LPFM from ABN from 6 to 8 am and 3 to 5 M-F and from 6 - 11 Sat/Sun. Good stuff, very good audio. Timing is tight enough to run with our automation software.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on May 13, 2017 3:18:42 GMT
"John Fred And His Playboy Band - Who Could Love You (Like I Do)". REALLY?? They had another song? I really liked "Judy in Disguise" when I was in high school. Free Educational Tids and BitsTheLegacy might be interested in learning that rock music... all rock music... had its roots in negro music of an earlier time. The professional rock musicians know this and take great pride in knowing and playing with the old time black musicians. "Rap" music is simply another evolutionary branch of the musical tree, and the stations that carry it are not at war against album rock, they are earning money from playing music that a large number of people want to hear. Some of the prose poetry and word play in rap music is very intelligent and carries messages ranging from romantic to protest. There are music schools that teach this stuff. I myself favor the key of a minor because it can be played on a violin which I once studied. My interest turned to composing and after 4 symphonies, a violin concerto, some tone poems and numerous video scores I decided to conduct an orchestra on the radio which I am doing as I type this.
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