Bounced Signals Between ALPB Forums and Part 15_us

Wait, do they really? I was under the impression that the ALPB board was started by the ALPB itself, as far as I know .us is owned by a media company with no vested interests in anything radio.

It Now

Druid Hills levels: "You have done it now Carl."

Carl stumbles, perhaps, but what is it?

And now, I know what you knew, and what you had known about knowing

Further, I also have a headache after all that knowledge about knowing...

Just As I Thought

DavidC confirms: "Anyone who is a member of the ALPB knows why said individual has a bee in his bonnet."

So, he does wear a bonnet

I know that the ALPB has been a sub part of part15(dot)us for a while. But when that site wanted to only be just part 15 and we can't even hint about higher power or what other countries are doing or what if one used x power what would the range be or even talking about FM on 25Mhz for fear it promotes illegal operations and the stiff upper lip paranoia after a while it gets to you.

I had a friend who has tried to tell his stories with dealing with want to be Radio police and how it ended his operations altogether. That was quashed and folks didn't get to hear from start to finish about it.

The Music on CB post though didn't practice good moral fiber does indeed have information that no one will ever see if they didn't get to it before it was nuked. Conversations and ideas do come from what some may fear as against moral fiber. I get that part 15 (dot) us is like the church of legal Radio broadcasting and people like myself are just like Saten coming to church, but there was a moral to that whole post other than promoting one to transmit (sick) music on CB.

With that said some of us have exorcised our freedom to come to a more relaxed and less paranoid atmosphere whereas one can openly discuss Hobby Radio broadcasting. Behind the petition for more power my site had this in mind. Some say part15 and FREE Radio have no business being put together in one lupm? Well I say otherwise and here is why:

1. Many lawmakers already lump part15 and Pirate Radio (Free Radio) as one lump sum. This was one of my gripes when I wanted to start a petition for more usable power and for 87.7-87.9Mhz for FM (yes this has been played out but I have a point if you bare with me).

2. Which now leads me to this statement many folks think they can somehow brown nose the FCC into thinking we're all good little Radio kiddies. I won't tell you what I really feel for that one just read between the lines on this post. Only this and think about this with some common sense. If you think most lawmakers will look at you in a reality spotlight when you make a statement "I have $20,000 worth of Radio equipment including mixers, modulation monitors, tape decks, turntables, sound proof studios to have a virtual audience of 150 Feet on FM?" Feed that to the lawmakers and I'll promise them ocean front property in Arizona and if your super nice and pucker up I'll throw the golden gate in FREE!!

Paranoia and misconceptions is what is killing this hobby and making it a very unfriendly place to be. And this now brings me to number three.

3. Many engineers keep things from us because they DON'T WANT us to have any range or furthermore mess with the broadcast band period. One reason is fear we don't know what we're doing and will only mess up the Radio bands as we know of them. However some will operate with overpowered units. Instead lets teach folks about filtration and the necessity of not over deviating or over modulating. Also how we can overcome spatter by using 7 pole filters to block spurs and harmonics.

At least we've talked about how important a good SWR ratio is here whereas this has not been talked about on part15(dot)us. The fact that the SWR-3P meter can work for FM and some of the MFJ meters can work for AM and how this can help is a big plus. The ALPB has made things much better for hobby broadcasters without the paranoia and disillusion that some other forums have and this is why I feel I can learn and grow here.

With that said if this site ever becomes paranoid and over censored I'd leave it too and just concentrate on my station and my site and to heck with all the paranoia. I say lets keep up the good work here with the relaxed atmosphere where there is so much knowledge to be shared to help others as well as the very spectrum bands we all cherish forever.

The legacy said....

"I know that the ALPB has been a sub part of part15(dot)us for a while. But when that site wanted to only be just part 15 and we can't even hint about higher power or what other countries are doing or what if one used x power what would the range be or even talking about FM on 25Mhz for fear it promotes illegal operations and the stiff upper lip paranoia after a while it gets to you."

The legacy hints on a good point here. Especially with part 15.us anyone from any country can join and rules may be not the same in another country. If I talk about going more than 250uv/m@3meters, that's not discussing illegal activity as it's not illegal here, as an example, and even though part 15 is the main theme of the forums if anyone anywhere can join then some leeway has to be given to take this into account.

If I started a forum based on Canadian RSS-210 and BETS-1 but allowed anyone anywhere to join, and I said legal operation only I would still have to acknowledge that the rules may be different elsewhere.
For example, here in Canada ANY transmitter has to have a certification from an approved lab to use even if all technical rules are met. BUT, in the USA any transmitter CAN be used(kit, home built, whatever), even if not certified if the rules are met. Could I say that a forum member discussing that is illegal activity given that it's a Canada based forum? If so how would I have people from other places?

Mark