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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 2:23:28 GMT
Thank you all for your concerns. My actions may have seemed radical and drastic, temporarily shutting down The ALPB Forum and website. It seemed the only way to get your attention.
First: There are no pending legal problems for the forum nor have there been. Yes, I felt some of the discussions here could lead to those type of problems which I do not want to be liable for.
Second: Although there have been many important and informative discussions here regarding legal, license free, low power broadcasting, the original voice-to-voice TeamSpeak get together meetings for The ALPB membership never progressed beyond the core group of founding fathers of The ALPB. Of all the members who joined through the original group and those that have joined here at the forum, we still have only the original core group at our TeamSpeak meetings. It seems the group is not progressing.
I implemented several ideas to keep The ALPB moving. The ALPB website was started and gradually incorporated many ideas to keep members excited. When it seemed to be built-out, the forum was started. This drew far more members than the website. But most who join through the forum are "absentee" members, only wishing to speak with a keyboard. The idea of the voice-to-voice, personal friendship meeting doesn't seem to fit our society. Odd for a group that desires to "broadcast" to the public.
Is the problem related to our busy life style? Is it the fear of speaking in a group? What is the reason so few participate?
After over 5 years as Chairman, I began to wonder if I am the problem. Am I the reason The ALPB, to me, seems stagnant. I have offered several times to "pass the baton" in hopes of new blood bringing new life to our group. Those who listened to my offer were comfortable as is. There would be no changes. That's the problem!
Concerned the original concept of The ALPB would cease, it became do-or-die. My actions persuaded an individual, another founding member, to step up and take the reins. He has several important decisions facing him. Should the original concept of The ALPB meeting format be dropped in favor of the forum? It would appear so. Should the forum be run a bit tighter to avoid the looming problem of discussions becoming political rants and personal attacks? I think yes as those discussions generally end with personal consequence.
Your forum and website are safe for now. Your new Chairman and forum Admin has been given the chance to make The ALPB a strong and viable resource for legal, license free, low power broadcasting.
There will be an ALPB TeamSpeak meeting the first Saturday in March. The choice is yours...
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Post by mark on Feb 23, 2018 5:50:07 GMT
Me personally, have never been to the Saturday meetings because I don't have the program needed and would have to learn how to do it...so I am one of the ones who never officially joined the ALPB and just joined the forum. Do you see each other in this meeting room? or just have audio and how do you communicate with the rest? I'm not as computer savvy as maybe some others are.
I also can't make a commitment to be at the meetings every other Saturday, besides that until recently I was getting the internet for free from my landlord who only had 30GB a month limit and something like this would put us way over the quota as a lot of data is used for things like this and I would have to pay a lot, but now I get it on my own and have unlimited use.
Also, reading what was discussed by Carl's posts sometimes, is a lot of subjects I know nothing about and couldn't contribute much or comment on.
So I have been happy to be on the forum and get into discussions like that. I'm in Canada and a lot of the goings on with the FCC etc.,etc., etc., and other things of importance in the USA affecting broadcasting doesn't affect me here and I don't know much about it. For example there have been many posts in a thread about net neutering but I know nothing about this....do I even know what it is? One example.
Yes it would be nice to be together with forum mates where we all have an interest in this hobby but I don't know how much I could contribute. And as you know our Canadian rules allow a small neighborhood FM station to get off the ground but it seems that isn't so in the USA so I seem to be alone in the fact I am on FM and most are on AM....I understand why, but another reason why my contributions at meeting would be limited.
But I will look into....Team Speak is it?... and see how it works.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Feb 23, 2018 6:18:14 GMT
Bob, Thanks for the explanation! I must admit I have missed the last few meetings. This was because my wife, who used to work every Saturday night, is now off most Saturday nights. And secondly to be honest, I hadn't noticed much new or much being accomplished in the last several meetings I attended. I'll give it another shot. Also, I am considering standing up DNews, my news server, that I haven't run for over a decade. It also has a web interface for those who don't know how to configure a news reader. Now I am contemplating if I want to spend the money for a new server to host it. If I follow through I could certainly offer forums for the ALPB to get away from the Proboards interface if there is any interest in that. I paid quite a bit for the DNews license almost 20 years ago and I hate to see it idle. And the software company was kind enough to just send me the latest version without additional charge. Thank you all for your concerns. My actions may have seemed radical and drastic, temporarily shutting down The ALPB Forum and website. It seemed the only way to get your attention. First: There are no pending legal problems for the forum nor have there been. Yes, I felt some of the discussions here could lead to those type of problems which I do not want to be liable for. Second: Although there have been many important and informative discussions here regarding legal, license free, low power broadcasting, the original voice-to-voice TeamSpeak get together meetings for The ALPB membership never progressed beyond the core group of founding fathers of The ALPB. Of all the members who joined through the original group and those that have joined here at the forum, we still have only the original core group at our TeamSpeak meetings. It seems the group is not progressing. I implemented several ideas to keep The ALPB moving. The ALPB website was started and gradually incorporated many ideas to keep members excited. When it seemed to be built-out, the forum was started. This drew far more members than the website. But most who join through the forum are "absentee" members, only wishing to speak with a keyboard. The idea of the voice-to-voice, personal friendship meeting doesn't seem to fit our society. Odd for a group that desires to "broadcast" to the public. Is the problem related to our busy life style? Is it the fear of speaking in a group? What is the reason so few participate? After over 5 years as Chairman, I began to wonder if I am the problem. Am I the reason The ALPB, to me, seems stagnant. I have offered several times to "pass the baton" in hopes of new blood bringing new life to our group. Those who listened to my offer were comfortable as is. There would be no changes. That's the problem! Concerned the original concept of The ALPB would cease, it became do-or-die. My actions persuaded an individual, another founding member, to step up and take the reins. He has several important decisions facing him. Should the original concept of The ALPB meeting format be dropped in favor of the forum? It would appear so. Should the forum be run a bit tighter to avoid the looming problem of discussions becoming political rants and personal attacks? I think yes as those discussions generally end with personal consequence. Your forum and website are safe for now. Your new Chairman and forum Admin has been given the chance to make The ALPB a strong and viable resource for legal, license free, low power broadcasting. There will be an ALPB TeamSpeak meeting the first Saturday in March. The choice is yours... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 12:17:36 GMT
Pre-Dawn Thoughts
The ALPB meetings on TeamSpeak are audio only. A key is usually set to trigger your microphone for talking, usually the right "CTRL" key, which is set from the TeamSpeak Menu.
Looking at the whole five year experience it seems the ALPB has been looking for an identity, with all of us believing in our head that the organization could serve a purpose in the low power hobby world.
At times we acted like an educational institution trying to teach each other something.
And that actually paid off many times when members needed help with a technical or software problem. I wonder if maybe Bob was so involved with helping members work through problems that he somehow didn't realize this was a successful service being actualized. There are many times when I was helped by members giving valuable information.
At other times we became a promotional team exploring ways of attracting new members to the ALPB, and this also brought overall numbers in terms of "guests" who visit the site in growing numbers, the silently expanding member list of persons with zero posts and no-shows at the meetings.
Promotion also means bringing new folks to the hobby and increased sales of low power transmitters, and with no feedback from transmitter vendors we have no idea what we might have accomplished.
To the few active members the radio hobby is a pleasurable reality, but radio itself is being pushed aside in the public mind by a dazzling cyber world that pulls people into screen experiences that is also interfering with humanities social development.
I'd like to see Bob stop thinking he was less than effective because in fact he was super effective and at times I thought he took on too much out of his determined interest in making it work.
Even now as we re-start, and I'm glad we are doing this, we may be trying to move with brakes applied, because we are a very small society running on the fumes of our own imagination.
Jim Henry said: "To be honest, I hadn't noticed much new or much being accomplished in the last several meetings I attended."
That's true. But what might we have accomplished?
Fewer meetings will probably be held moving forward.
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Post by Neil on Feb 25, 2018 21:58:29 GMT
Hi, all. I just joined the forum though I have been a long time ALPB participant on the TeamSpeak meetings.
In my opinion, Bob, MRAM, has done a super job keeping the organization going and I understand his feelings about "stagnation" but, if true, it is not a result of his leadership.
To my mind, there are two components to the TeamSpeak gatherings: A business meeting and a social gathering. I prefer to see both continue.
Since I just joined, I haven't had a chance to review all the comments re where we go from here but thought I would jump in with these comments anyway.
Neil
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 0:56:20 GMT
Giant Super Banner Welcoming Neil
WELCOME RADIO8Z
This organization is almost ready to launch toward other planets!
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Post by Neil on Feb 26, 2018 18:41:28 GMT
Thanks, Carl. Glad to be aboard.
When things settle a bit I plan to post about "adventures in registering".
Neil
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 16:15:11 GMT
Reflections and Ruminations
Outgoing Chairman Bob said somewhere that his oversight may have been lax. Now he is ex-lax.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 15:49:02 GMT
Debilitating Influence of Conservatism
The disease of conservatism is behind the ongoing pressure to confine speech and thought to a childishly narrow range of topic.
The irony is that while calling the ALPB "stagnant", conservatism is stagnation by definition.
By narrowing the range of intellect on these forums there will be reduced traffic, always blamed on the members for "not participating".
Now that conservatism is pushing to the brink of planetary annihilation it might be worth mentioning along with 3-meter antennas.
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Post by part15engineer on Mar 1, 2018 16:17:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 16:45:19 GMT
So On Target
Tremendous article Part15 Eng!!
"Inability to grasp irony" ... Yes, even that is listed as a symptom.
This is such a great moment... radio station owners having an informed adult conversation!
Complaints will fly!
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Post by part15engineer on Mar 1, 2018 18:08:50 GMT
it should be noted I'm not sure if psychology today was attempting an onion type piece or if they are being serious with this article.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 18:15:57 GMT
They Meant Business
A psychology magazine is unlikely to spoof psychology.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Mar 1, 2018 18:46:55 GMT
So On TargetTremendous article Part15 Eng!! " Inability to grasp irony" ... Yes, even that is listed as a symptom. This is such a great moment... radio station owners having an informed adult conversation! Complaints will fly! I would be a Republican if Republicans acted more like Republicans. |
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2018 19:57:07 GMT
Off topic.
But definitely tongue in cheek.
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