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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2017 0:30:30 GMT
What I most wonder about is this talk in the news about Trump embracing a "FCC deregulatory plan that squares, generally, with the philosophies of both Pai and O'Rielly."
How might this apply to us
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 0:46:17 GMT
Seek the Truth
End80 has a question we should all ask: "What I most wonder about is this talk in the news about Trump embracing a "FCC deregulatory plan that squares, generally, with the philosophies of both Pai and O'Rielly."
How might this apply to us
See what you can find out and make a report on the ALPB Latest News Page!
Find links that describe Trump's "deregulatory plan".
I will also poke around.
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Post by thelegacy on Jan 18, 2017 1:21:58 GMT
All the FEE's and BS is what started Pirate Radio to begin with. Face it the FCC is understaffed. More of these transmitters are available. What needs to be done is say "Hobby Broadcasters you get 87.1-87.9 Mhz, but IF we have to come out there to your station because you're causing Interference you have to call upon an engineer to solve the issue. You continue to operate in a harmful manor your done period.
It should be about what? Not causing interference. It should not be "You are a low life POS because you don't have $1,000,000 to back up your station with.
Back in the 60's-70's one could not even obtain a transmitter for less than 10-20 grand. Now less than $100 and you can broadcast for around 2 miles. Tecchnology has out-paced the corporations who stride to control it. The FCC can't possibly keep a lid on it forever.
Its better to give a little portion of the Broadcast Band for hobby use than to have chaos later. Reason for so is that people have that nature and they won't stand for not allowing a little hobby use on blank frequencies and as long as Transmitters improve I feel the potential for interference is lessor and lessor.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 2:41:44 GMT
Anyone who believes that Trump is a man of the people, and/or cares about the little guy, is deluding him or her self.
Look at whom he's putting in charge of the various government agencies. A CEO from the oil industry. His cronies from Wall Street. There's even one in there from his Wrestlemania days. All members of the rich & the elite who, quite franky, don't give a rat's *ss about anything other than making themselves and the companies they're associated with richer and more powerful. And they certainly don't care about hobby broadcasting - quite the opposite, in fact.
Trump might gut the FCC, but he won't (at least in my opinion) loosen restrictions. He'll just put his buddies in the private sector in charge of policing the airwaves. The proposal put forward by the FCC to have radio stations help with the pirate problem may be eerie foreshadowing of what is to come.
I hope I'm wrong. And I'm sorry to rain on the parade. But I've seen nothing to indicate optimism moving forward.
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Post by thelegacy on Jan 18, 2017 3:41:07 GMT
Hobby Broadcasting brings diversity which stimulates people to buy more Radios which stimulates jobs which effects economic growth and in return people buy more.
Hobby Broadcasting- it's good for the economy.
This message has been approved by The New Radio Revolution.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 5:48:08 GMT
Things Stay the Same Unless They Don'tAbout 5-hours ago in this thread End80 brought our attention to an interesting section of the FCC Rules titled "Special Temporary Authority" which appeared to offer a very hopeful doorway for seeking permission to operate above normal Part 15 limits. We talked about this at an ALPB Meeting a few months ago until Neil Radio8Z pointed out that the section, 15.2, had been removed from the most recent publication of the Part 15 Rules. Note That 15.2 is Gone
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2017 8:10:23 GMT
That was from a 1975 docket that 15.209 and 15.219 were different numbers, so its possible 15.02 was renumbered as well. But I just ran a few quick searches looking for it or trying to find when it was removed, but found nothing. Did come across this page detailing a summery of the experiment licenses issued by the FCC about 5 years ago, some of them in the AM broadcast band.. I've only glanced it so far, not really sure what if any application it would be to individuals.. Interesting nonetheless: stevencrowley.com/2012/02/05/experimental-radio-applications-at-the-fcc-26/
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2017 8:33:45 GMT
Anyone who believes that Trump is a man of the people, and/or cares about the little guy, is deluding him or her self.,..
I don't get in political discussions, but I will say this much.. He scares me, there's no telling what might erupt during his presidency... He has an odd immaturity.
Its better to give a little portion of the Broadcast Band for hobby use than to have chaos later. Give a little portion?.. unlicensed with more power?.. to who?.. anyone?.. free?.. That would be a rapid chaos right there. You are kidding right? That wouldn't even benefit the unlicensed broadcasters, even if such a notion were feasible. What a mess.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Jan 18, 2017 13:11:49 GMT
What was 15.2 all about?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 14:32:42 GMT
SCROLL BACK AND YEE SHALL SEEK
DHR wonders; "What was 15.2 about?"
A re-print of the FCC Rules showing 15.1 Scope of this Whatever and 15.2 Something Temporary Authority is located within this thread by scrolling back and back and back until you've passed it up.
Is there a way of being more specific when cross-referencing panels in these threads? As of the moment End80's very good post about this topic is "about "i4-hours ago" but otherwise these individual postings don't seem to have any associated numbers or specific means of identification...
There are things in this world I don't understand and this forum has its mysteries as if we living beings can never really know the world in which temporary authority has been granted by the Sky Commissioner so shy that he hides in the clouds and snickers at us... I can hear him up there getting the biggest kick out of our earthly scramblings. I may be off topic but some things need to be said.
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2017 15:39:47 GMT
In the middle of page 2 of this thread, I was looking up docket 74-1221 from back in 1975 to read when the ground lead was first written into the rules, but noticed section 15.2 "Special Temporary Authority" which allowed experimentation beyond the limitation rules as a means of possibly creating a new rule based upon benefiting the public interest. But at some undetermined point 15.02 had been removed.. Read more: alpb.boards.net/thread/851/radio-magic-tricks?page=3#ixzz4W7y2giyD
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Post by mighty1650 on Jan 19, 2017 13:30:54 GMT
Guessing for GuidanceMighty 1650 suspects: " I would suspect more restrictions would be the end result." Mighty would GUESS that more restrictions might result because we're bringing attention to ourselves by talking about the rules. One guess is as good as another and I GUESS that AM Revitalization is only a slogan in advance of a collapse of the old medium. If Mighty is a psychic or a prophet I guess I'll have egg on my face. You do realize what my day job is right? Trust me on this, the FCC is out to protect the licensed users. Not you. But you are certainly correct, my guess is as good as any and anything can happen. I think it'd be nice if .219 and .239 were loosened up a bit, I just know with AM the priority the FCC won't be all that open to more interference. (To them there isn't much difference between a Part 15 station and a buzzing powerline)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2017 15:30:55 GMT
Mighty 1650 says several things: "You do realize what my day job is right?"
Carl knows: Yes, I do know that you work for a licensed professional radio station and am very very proud that this great hobby attracts professionals which is a very unusual thing.
For example, people who work in shoe stores have never developed a hobby group for shoe clerks because it just wouldn't be that interesting. What would "hobby shoes" even be?
Many people who work in radio like it so much they become radio hobbyists to make their lives all about radio.
Mighty also said: "I think it'd be nice if .219 and .239 were loosened up a bit, I just know with AM the priority the FCC won't be all that open to more interference. (To them there isn't much difference between a Part 15 station and a buzzing powerline).'"
Truth hurts and I realize that our hobby signals are dismissed by the FCC in exactly the way you say, but I am unwilling to consider myself as interference. Our radio stations are cultural institutions in the community! If the FCC can't realize that they are demons from hell.
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Post by thelegacy on Jan 20, 2017 5:39:30 GMT
Wow Carl it's like an entity took you over. I love this side of you. We could had used that 1 1/2 years ago. Keep up the good work Carl.
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Post by End80 on Jan 20, 2017 6:22:29 GMT
...I am unwilling to consider myself as interference. Our radio stations are cultural institutions in the community! If the FCC can't realize that they are demons from hell. Relax Carl, you are not really interference. Allow me to explain. - What you evidently fail to understand is that there is no part 15 in hell, that's why they call it hell. You see, the FCC demons are aware that part 15 stations are broadcasting, but the range is so weak that they're unable to even tune it in down there, and that irritates the hell.. uh,.. irritates the heaven out of them.. and their irritation is the interference to their satisfaction.... That's why they call our stations interference. Take a nap and you'll understand.
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