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Post by part15engineer on Jun 9, 2018 15:35:37 GMT
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Post by mark on Jun 9, 2018 16:22:20 GMT
Written by the not so popular Bill Defelice but right on just the same.
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Post by Boomer on Jun 10, 2018 7:48:20 GMT
The MarkFunny how it 'Misses the Mark' and the last post is by Mark..  I like what he's getting at, that Part-15 operators shouldn't be targets, right on! It wouldn't seem that Part-15 stations could cause much interference, at such low decibel levels, but for someone uninformed like a building manager or landlord, how could they know what signal level was Part-15 and what was pirate? People just don't take it that far with their thoughts. When you're close enough to a transmitter, it just sounds like another station. The format could mean something, from the recordings of pirates I've heard, most sound like full service stations to their community, live with listeners calling in and requests, where a P-15 wouldn't have the staff power to operate that way, so it's more of a personal project. Another thing that could help is that almost all pirates seem to use the FM band, and most P-15 people who are serious are on AM. If the station in question is on AM, that alone should be enough to give someone pause. I wonder how many pirates even use AM radio? It's something I rarely have read about, most are stories, recollections of some boy in high school going on the air with friends and being DJs, using a tubed transmitter and running an antenna out to a pole in their yard, and classmates listening, or you have Art Bell, who famously got his start on an AM pirate station. Boomer
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Post by thelegacy on Jun 11, 2018 22:50:09 GMT
Why an FM Pirate is an FM Pirate:
Many hobbyist who play a niche format such as Album Rock (not informed about C Quam AM Stereo) chose FM because most Album Rockers won't stomach AM Radio due to its horrible sound compared to FM (In an Album Rocker's mind). If its unlicensed and playing Album Rock I will bet its a PIRATE FM Station. This is the fault of Radio manufacturers who refuse to put C Quam AM Stereo in the Radio's.
Informed part 15 legal operators operate AM because their FORCED to by the FCC!!
However C-Quam AM Stereo is the magic pill to end this problem. Agents from the FCC when they bust a PIRATE should inform them about C-Quam alongside part 15 because in a rural area you most likely will travel 1.5 to 2 miles.
There are Radio's that receive it as well as mods
Making AM available to hobbyists will help end the issue with FM and it starts with part 15 operators running C Quam. We need to get more transmitter manufacturers to include C-Quam. All part 15 operators want this as it will help stop FCC agents from having to go after hobby operators and more AM legal unlicensed operators can have a clear head about their operations.
More cool broadcast engineers like my friend!!
My engineer friend saw why I wanted AM Stereo and was as cool as to make it legally happen. He eliminated FM interference from Hobby Broadcasters by doing this. Most hobbyist don't wish to harm anyone with their stations. So I feel there needs to be public part 15 workshops or classes so as to help keep the broadcast bands clean.
This is how you solve the problem. But all the other stuff won't due.
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Post by mark on Jun 12, 2018 0:01:19 GMT
The MarkFunny how it 'Misses the Mark' and the last post is by Mark.. I like what he's getting at, that Part-15 operators shouldn't be targets, right on! It wouldn't seem that Part-15 stations could cause much interference, at such low decibel levels, but for someone uninformed like a building manager or landlord, how could they know what signal level was Part-15 and what was pirate? People just don't take it that far with their thoughts. When you're close enough to a transmitter, it just sounds like another station. The format could mean something, from the recordings of pirates I've heard, most sound like full service stations to their community, live with listeners calling in and requests, where a P-15 wouldn't have the staff power to operate that way, so it's more of a personal project. Another thing that could help is that almost all pirates seem to use the FM band, and most P-15 people who are serious are on AM. If the station in question is on AM, that alone should be enough to give someone pause. I wonder how many pirates even use AM radio? It's something I rarely have read about, most are stories, recollections of some boy in high school going on the air with friends and being DJs, using a tubed transmitter and running an antenna out to a pole in their yard, and classmates listening, or you have Art Bell, who famously got his start on an AM pirate station. Boomer The reason pirates use FM is the availability of the $100 to $200 dollar 1, 5, 7, 15, and 30 watt transmitters that can be had on Amazon Prime with 1 day shipping and also from China with 3 day DHL shipping. They don't make the AM ones. And the AM ones are much more expensive and operate at part 15 rules which a pirate doesn't want.
Also it's harder to get people to listen to AM in this day and age.
I am on FM, probably the only one here, but I am not in the USA. If the USA had Canada's better coverage legally more of you would be on FM I'm sure as AM is not a first choice. It's so true that a landlord doesn't know anything about what's legal or not. I can't imagine my landlord telling be I can't do this as he/she will be held liable and have to try to explain BETS-1 to them. Bill says target this at the source....yes! but the transmitters can also be had directly from China from FMuser, how do you stop that? Strange Bill mentioned the transmitters on Amazon and got no response back. As for pirate radio here it seems it's very rare and if it does happen it gets a write up in the most read paper in the country and an interview with the person.
Have never seen any section with Industry Canada(now ISED) with lists of people that got busted for being in excess of rules like the FCC does.
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