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Post by sparepart on May 12, 2018 23:27:06 GMT
So I'm trying to eliminate a (very) faint 60Hz hum leaking into the audio.... I finally tracked it down to the 1/8" trs connection on the PC sound card. There is measurable differential between the shields on the TRS connector and jack. Ended up using a scope to see it, but its there and was audible during quiet recording. Off to the junk box and pulled out a pair of Bogen WMT-1 transformers, and the soldering iron. 30 minutes later, the hum is gone, and the sound card even seems to sound better (might be that it's now working into the correct load Z, and the desk is seeing 600 Ω ) Even if you buy the Bogen WMT-1 new, they are less than 1/2 the cost of the comparable commercial kit. Next step it to mount them on a blank 1U rack panel and add a few mix 43 ferrites for RF/EMI suppression.
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Post by mark on May 12, 2018 23:36:04 GMT
Yeah, that hum is a nuisance and it's good when you can get rid of it.
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Post by Boomer on May 13, 2018 0:34:09 GMT
You can also do it with op-amp ICs as well, an active solution, but one that can give better response than transformers.
I have a stereo generator for my AM that's in beta test right now, as an open board, unbalanced input and a 1/8th inch jack out from the computer the same as you have.
I have a small bit of hum too, it's not terrible, but I think it could be better and plan to change the inputs to a dual op-amp with differential inputs for the sum and difference signals.
Transformers are great too, they solved many problems in my studios over time, once I knew what was going on with ground loops.
Boomer
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 0:46:48 GMT
What We Think From Here
I am romantically attached to both methods of line balancing... transformer and/or differential active amplifiers.
Sometimes the limited frequency response characteristics of a transformer can be productive, such as in the case of the human voice, where the frequency range is limited to begin with.
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Post by sparepart on May 13, 2018 17:12:33 GMT
The transformers were a quick and dirty fix, with what was on-hand, and with the limited dynamic range of most PC sound cards, will work just fine. The end game is to ditch the standard PC sound devices and move to professional cards such as AudioScience. We are already using them in the proof-of-concept Rivendale playout system. Link to what we are trying to do: SP In fairness, my design skills are not up to building really quiet op-amp devices (phase and thermal noise seem to be an issue, even when using quality components in the input section)
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