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Post by Admin on Mar 2, 2018 15:54:40 GMT
Jim Henry's post, first placed in the Latest News section in the ALPB meeting thread, is unfortunate. I moved it to the appropriate place for discussion, even though it contains political tirade.
First, a general comment. I was asked to take on the Chairman role by the existing Chairman, as no one else appeared to be willing to step up to the plate. The ability to assign the role comes directly from the ALPB charter. I accepted it on a temporary basis only, as 1) I felt the new Chairman does need to be elected and 2) I'm not sure I want it.
Re Moderation. I've posted sufficiently on the process of moderation in the past and I'm not going to repeat it here. A Moderator has to take into consideration not only each individual post, but patterns and poster motivation. You can disagree with the decisions that were made all you want, but I (and the other Moderator) stand by them. Obviously the decision surrounding the Congressman has been proven correct, judging by the number of times it continues to be brought up, without any sort of tangible evidence, actions or statements (never mind the current ban on political chatter).
Re Meeting Attendance. You've obviously not attended every meeting (and you haven't) because I've been there. Not as much as I would like, nor maybe even as much as I should have. As I've thrown out ideas in the threads surrounding the ALPB (where are yours, by the way?), I've admitted that I'm not a particular fan of the meetings, and would like to find communication alternatives.
Re Running for Chairman. Go for it.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Mar 2, 2018 20:08:20 GMT
Doing Things the Right WayDHR fair and balanced: " I think I would single out ALL members of Congress who somehow manage to leave as millionaires that involve themselves with insider trading." The ALPB agrees. DHR Brings the facts: HERE
Granted, this is 2012 data but you get the picture.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2018 20:13:15 GMT
At the Low End
Some of them have $0 net worth. Are they radio hobbyists?
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Mar 3, 2018 2:39:37 GMT
I think I would single out ALL members of Congress who somehow manage to leave as millionaires that involve themselves with insider trading. Agreed. I just pointed out one of the the most blatant examples. Not all members of Congress pad their pockets at the taxpayer's expense though. Some are millionaires when they entered Congress. Darrel Issa is one example.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Mar 3, 2018 2:45:32 GMT
Jim Henry's post, first placed in the Latest News section in the ALPB meeting thread, is unfortunate. I moved it to the appropriate place for discussion, even though it contains political tirade. First, a general comment. I was asked to take on the Chairman role by the existing Chairman, as no one else appeared to be willing to step up to the plate. The ability to assign the role comes directly from the ALPB charter. I accepted it on a temporary basis only, as 1) I felt the new Chairman does need to be elected and 2) I'm not sure I want it. Re Moderation. I've posted sufficiently on the process of moderation in the past and I'm not going to repeat it here. A Moderator has to take into consideration not only each individual post, but patterns and poster motivation. You can disagree with the decisions that were made all you want, but I (and the other Moderator) stand by them. Obviously the decision surrounding the Congressman has been proven correct, judging by the number of times it continues to be brought up, without any sort of tangible evidence, actions or statements (never mind the current ban on political chatter). Re Meeting Attendance. You've obviously not attended every meeting (and you haven't) because I've been there. Not as much as I would like, nor maybe even as much as I should have. As I've thrown out ideas in the threads surrounding the ALPB (where are yours, by the way?), I've admitted that I'm not a particular fan of the meetings, and would like to find communication alternatives. Re Running for Chairman. Go for it. Davidc thanks for the explanation. And no I am not running for Chairman.
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Post by cthuskyman on Mar 3, 2018 2:53:07 GMT
In other words, where do we go from here. This upcoming weekend, we are going to have an ALPB meeting. I will try to be in attendance at the meeting. A good friend of mine just passed away suddenly, and I have to go to the funeral tomorrow....so as you might expect, I might not be in the mood. We'll have to see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 2:58:09 GMT
Matt, I'm very sorry about your friend.
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Post by cthuskyman on Mar 3, 2018 3:29:41 GMT
In other words, where do we go from here. Here's what I suggest. I'll throw a few ideas out here. Perhaps others can comment on them, and suggest their own. Out of that, we can come up with something that will serve as the framework for the meeting. I'm open to postponing the meeting as well, if we get a lively dialogue going here, Here goes, in no particular order. 1. Focus. It's a lot of work and worry to run a Forum, website, etc. I believe that we should focus on what makes us different than others out there, and that's Programming. Even rework the Forum to emphasize that focus. 2. Structure. You need more than a Chairman to run a group, particularly to avoid burnout of key individuals. It would be nice to have a Chairman, several moderators, a website admin, etc. If we want to grow, then we're going to have to look at other avenues of communication, such as social media. 3. Internal Mechanisms. Meetings provide a useful tool to communicate internally, but they can be unwieldy if they grow too large (not much of problem so far, but if we grow...). Some like the social aspects as well. However, not everyone is comfortable in meetings, or has the available time to attend. I'd like to see the ALPB use the Forum in lieu of some meetings for business, and come up with a mechanism for that. Perhaps have 2 types of meetings - business, which are limited in number, and social (same as we have now). Let me briefly express my thoughts on the matters at hand. First off, yes, this group seems to be very stagnant and inactive. I think that one of the major reasons for this is because the group, as a whole, doesn't seem to have any sense of what it wants to accomplish, or where it wants to go. We have no real "mission statement" or bylaws, other than a few sentences in the Charter. This group needs to be better organized regarding that; otherwise, trying to do anything here will be a losing battle. Sharing more in the way of new and innovative ideas would help as well. What new things can we bring to the table that would excite and inspire others? I think the shortwave radio program idea is a good example of something we may choose to take up. Second, we do need a better organizational structure. If you asked me who the officers of this group are, I wouldn't be able to answer....this needs to change. Perhaps we can publish, on our home page, a list of "who's who"; namely, the officers and main staff. And if people wish to make this group better, they need to step up and lead. That means doing the things that are needed to make this group a success, including some grunt work. I realize this would be a tough undertaking, but to quote rapper Snoop Dogg, sometimes you have to "pay the cost to be the boss". Nothing in this life comes to those who aren't willing to work for it....at least, that's my humble opinion. Finally, regarding "internal mechanisms", I think our TeamSpeak room is a good way to have some interaction between members. However, we can do more with this. The instant messaging program "Telegram" is also a great way to keep in touch, and I think it should be used for our group. This way, members can talk to one another, even if there's nobody in the TeamSpeak room (as I have found to be the case on many occasions). As far as scheduled meetings are concerned, I believe that it would benefit us to have more in the way of agendas. Those plans don't have to be set in stone, but there should be a sense of "this is what we plan to talk about tonight, and this is a subject that we plan to review/vote on". Also, regarding votes on the various issues, I think that we've been putting off making important decisions. For some reason, the prevailing attitude seems to be "we'll discuss this possible action, but we won't vote on it until the next meeting". Prior review is all well and good, but I believe it should consist of greater personal research before meetings. This way, more of us can decide on our positions before the meetings take place, thus resulting in a shorter debate/vote time (as some will know what they plan to do regarding votes). One of the ideals of good leadership seems to be quick and decisive action, which is something we have to get better at, IMHO. Frankly, I think that our meetings take too long, and are too laborious. There have been many times that I have shown up for what I thought would be a short meeting, only to find that the general meeting would last (at times) up to three hours. Unless we're actually getting stuff done, I don't really have that kind of time in my day/night. I think it would be a great help us to look into ways to shorten our meetings, so that members have more time to actually do stuff with their various stations. OK, I've said my piece for now. Hope to see all the usuals, and perhaps some other members, at the meeting this Saturday.
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Post by cthuskyman on Mar 3, 2018 3:32:01 GMT
Matt, I'm very sorry about your friend. Thanks Carl. Apparently, he had a sudden, and massive, heart attack last Sunday night, and died. My whole hometown is in shock....the Honorable Daniel Caruso (he was a local judge of probate) was a very good man. Caruso was just sixty years old....too young!
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Post by cthuskyman on Mar 3, 2018 3:36:23 GMT
OK, I am going to say my piece. Bob Felmly has decided to step down. David C is now in charge of the ALPB. Looking through the ALPB web site, I don't recall or see the procedures that allow for or have facilitated this change nor do I recall any election on this. I may have missed it so please enlighten me if that is the case. I was wondering about this as well. David C has been duly appointed, and I congratulate him on that. That being said, my question is this....if one wished to campaign for the position of full-time Chairman, what would be the procedure for doing so? Our bylaws are silent on this issue.
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Post by cthuskyman on Mar 3, 2018 3:47:02 GMT
OK, I am going to say my piece. Bob Felmly has decided to step down. David C is now in charge of the ALPB. Looking through the ALPB web site, I don't recall or see the procedures that allow for or have facilitated this change nor do I recall any election on this. I may have missed it so please enlighten me if that is the case. I was wondering about this as well. David C has been duly appointed, and I congratulate him on that. That being said, my question is this....if one wished to campaign for the position of full-time Chairman, what would be the procedure for doing so? Our bylaws are silent on this issue. Also, being that I have some notable ideas for this group, I may "throw my hat into the ring" as far as the Chairman post is concerned.
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Post by Admin on Mar 3, 2018 5:15:10 GMT
Thanks, Matt, for your reasoned and well thought out comments.
One of the biggest problems I have with meetings (other than being involved in too many of them while working) is that they are very difficult to keep under control, both time-wise and objective-wise. It takes a special kind of skill to do so.
I don't think we have a process for electing a Chairman. We've never done it before, as the old one was acclaimed.
To keep up the tradition, I'd be more than happy to support you as the new Chairman. I think we need new blood and new ideas, and I'm part of the original regime (i.e., old blood and old ideas).
I'm also happy to continue moderating, if that is what is wanted. Although maybe we need someone new there as well, to better reflect the new ALPB.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 5:26:16 GMT
Two Ways to Approach Voting for Officers
1.) Announce your willingness to run for an elected office;
2.) Nominate someone you think should hold an office, and if they are willing, they will be in the running.
Simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2018 13:44:04 GMT
More Clarity About the Main Issues
The primary problems in need of a solution are:
The ALPB needs one person or a small staff of people to take charge of
1.) The Domain Name - thealpb_com;
2.) The Website and its Contents;
3.) Management of the membership correspondence and roster;
4.) Administration of the Forums... and the TeamSpeak Meetings were originally viewed as an Audio Forum no different from the keyboard forums, but other views have come into play... this person being the probable "chairman" of live meetings.
All of the above could be managed by one or several persons.
This clarification is necessary because several seem to think we are simply looking for a chair person.
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Post by cthuskyman on Mar 3, 2018 13:56:02 GMT
I don't think we have a process for electing a Chairman. We've never done it before, as the old one was acclaimed. To keep up the tradition, I'd be more than happy to support you as the new Chairman. I think we need new blood and new ideas, and I'm part of the original regime (i.e., old blood and old ideas). Still pondering whether to run or not, but thanks for the show of confidence!
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