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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2018 17:19:03 GMT
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Feb 10, 2018 8:34:07 GMT
Well thanks to horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, coal (clean or otherwise) is being pushed out of the U.S. markets and most U.S. coal will be exported over seas as natural gas replaces it in the United States making our energy and our atmosphere cleaner, thankfully due to the Trump administration rolling back the Draconian regulations imposed by the EPA of the Obama administration. Other nations such as China and India can of course do the same thing if they wish.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2018 11:00:50 GMT
Misbehaving Abroad
Jim Henry on exporting pollution: "U.S. coal will be exported over seas."
The moral of the story: It's o.k. to pollute so long as we don't do it at home.
If only ocean currents and jet streams cooperated.
So, what about the rise of black lung disease here in the U.S., which was the real point of this thread(?)
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Post by mark on Feb 10, 2018 17:03:50 GMT
I think in this day and age coal can be eliminated and other things like natural gas etc can fully take it's place. Donald Trump got the coal miners working again but what does he care about the workers and the environment. Clean coal?....coal is coal. In Canada we have almost totally gotten away from this and all the coal electric generating plants have closed. I just wonder if protective clothing, masks, breathing filters could be worn to stop the damage? This is really a 19th century fuel. Coal seems to be worse for you than smoking.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Feb 11, 2018 7:18:54 GMT
Misbehaving AbroadJim Henry on exporting pollution: " U.S. coal will be exported over seas." The moral of the story: It's o.k. to pollute so long as we don't do it at home. If only ocean currents and jet streams cooperated. So, what about the rise of black lung disease here in the U.S., which was the real point of this thread(?) Carl, This bears looking into if it is really happening. If it is, certainly no one has contracted black lung disease due to anything done in the past year that Trump has been President. It just doesn't metabolize that quickly. Coal production will disappear as people reject the benefits of coal. In the U.S., for most of our history, Americans have chosen coal rather than do without electricity or spend $50,000 for a solar system which is not prohibited to anyone. Thanks to fracking coal produced electricity has declined in the U.S. and most of our remaining production is for exports, thanks to fracking. Nations such as China are free to reject coal and stop buying it which I'm sure they wish to do. It just does not seem that any nation is willing to do without electricity until clean alternatives are cost effective. BUT, we are making steady progress.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 7:40:01 GMT
Fantastical Thoughts
"No one has contracted black lung disease due to anything done in the past year that Trump has been President."
The notion that by being in office Trump has altered the medical condition of coal miners goes beyond loyalty.
Anyway, I love long coal trains roaring on the tracks, electric turbine generators, the fact that coal converts into useful energy, and deep earth tunnels, so I won't take a clear side in this discussion.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Feb 12, 2018 10:28:10 GMT
Fantastical Thoughts" No one has contracted black lung disease due to anything done in the past year that Trump has been President." The notion that by being in office Trump has altered the medical condition of coal miners goes beyond loyalty. Anyway, I love long coal trains roaring on the tracks, electric turbine generators, the fact that coal converts into useful energy, and deep earth tunnels, so I won't take a clear side in this discussion. On this we can agree. And of course 416 cases in a nation of 330 million people is statistically insignificant but of course not insignificant for those 416 individuals, their families, and their loved ones. I am just thankful that due to market forces thanks to fracking, that Black Lung Disease has been reduced so much. It wasn't that long ago that coal produced 75% of power in the U.S. Now it is down to about 31% and should continue to decline thanks to fracking.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Feb 12, 2018 14:16:47 GMT
And this has to do with radio how?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 15:40:55 GMT
About Valid Equivalencies
Jim Henry makes a stretch too far: "416 cases in a nation of 330 million people is statistically insignificant."
Not all 330-million U.S. inhabitants work in coal mines.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 15:56:24 GMT
Everything Has To Do with Radio
DHR inquires: "And this has to do with radio how?"
Radio broadcasting is about more than its technical parts list.
The radio industry depends on electrical power, making the state of the energy industry an actual component of the physical system that powers radio.
Radio stations serve the public interest which most certainly includes the medical health of the population.
The radio industry is subject to federal oversight and is therefore subjected to the integrity of its regulator which, when infested by negative administration as we presently experience, can hamper the standards of our profession.
As vendors of news it is the responsibility of radio stations to reflect an awareness of all matters of interest to the general public.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Feb 12, 2018 16:15:48 GMT
Carl likes the word "Industry."
DHR is quick to point out that radio is not an industry. Industry as defined: Economic activity concerned with the processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2018 16:38:46 GMT
This Gets To Be Fun At Times
DHR gets caught in his own bait: "processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories."
"Processing" is a process. Radio is a process.
"Manufacture" describes "Man at work facturing things". Radio is about men working to facture programs.
"Goods" include any good thing, such as great music or fresh processed news.
"Factories" are a place where "facts" are combined with "stories" and "processed" as "raw" information.
"Raw" is anything uncooked. Radio is not cooked up regardless of what you've heard.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Feb 13, 2018 5:39:27 GMT
This Gets To Be Fun At TimesDHR gets caught in his own bait: " processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories." "Processing" is a process. Radio is a process. "Manufacture" describes "Man at work facturing things". Radio is about men working to facture programs. "Goods" include any good thing, such as great music or fresh processed news. "Factories" are a place where "facts" are combined with "stories" and "processed" as "raw" information. "Raw" is anything uncooked. Radio is not cooked up regardless of what you've heard. This discussion is fun to watch, as I watch on my electric powered laptop, 31% powered by coal, as is my radio station.
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