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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 16:18:57 GMT
Guilt Fed By Dependence On Coal
I love electricity. My electricity was best when it came from a coal-fired power plant.
I'd relish waiting at a RR crossing when a long, beautiful, coal train rolled by on the way to the turbine generators. At home I built a scale model coal train and ran hopper cars between the dining room and the living room.
Coal mines seemed romantic in my mind, even though I've never actually seen one. The idea of little coal-cars running on small-gauge tracks deep into a mountainside with helmut-lamps appealed to my masculine side and I considered a career change.
Doctors in coal country have never had such full waiting rooms since the days of black-lung disease.
The hazy gray sulfur smog that clung to the air for up to 50-miles around the generating plants was a dramatic introduction to the metropolitan region for automobile visitors heading toward town.
Trump wants to make coal first again. He is a smart man. I like him very much. I can see him and me with miner's hats making our way deep in a coal-cave in West Virginia. Our faces would turn black and we'd be proud Americans.
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Post by mark on Nov 14, 2017 16:31:12 GMT
Carl said: "Trump wants to make coal first again. He is a smart man. I like him very much. I can see him and me with miner's hats making our way deep in a coal-cave in West Virginia. Our faces would turn black and we'd be proud Americans".
I hope you are being sarcastic.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Nov 19, 2017 20:46:04 GMT
Coal may still be the number one source of electricity generation in the U.S. but it will never achieve the dominance it once had due to market forces. Clean natural gas is rapidly encroaching on it. That said, remember this when people try to say that electric cars are "clean". The majority of the electricity used to charge them comes from coal generated electricity. Coal, hydroelectric, and nuclear produce most of our electricity by far. Solar and wind are starting to make inroads but their contribution is still just a tiny fraction of the "big 3". Luckily "clean coal", more accurately called "less dirty coal", is becoming more or our coal picture in the U.S. Every little bit helps. All this said, it's important to remember that even dirty coal has done more to elevate humans out of poverty worldwide than most anything else. So no need at all to feel guilty. Guilt Fed By Dependence On CoalI love electricity. My electricity was best when it came from a coal-fired power plant. I'd relish waiting at a RR crossing when a long, beautiful, coal train rolled by on the way to the turbine generators. At home I built a scale model coal train and ran hopper cars between the dining room and the living room. Coal mines seemed romantic in my mind, even though I've never actually seen one. The idea of little coal-cars running on small-gauge tracks deep into a mountainside with helmut-lamps appealed to my masculine side and I considered a career change. Doctors in coal country have never had such full waiting rooms since the days of black-lung disease. The hazy gray sulfur smog that clung to the air for up to 50-miles around the generating plants was a dramatic introduction to the metropolitan region for automobile visitors heading toward town. Trump wants to make coal first again. He is a smart man. I like him very much. I can see him and me with miner's hats making our way deep in a coal-cave in West Virginia. Our faces would turn black and we'd be proud Americans.
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Post by mark on Nov 20, 2017 6:03:36 GMT
Coal may still be the number one source of electricity generation in the U.S. but it will never achieve the dominance it once had due to market forces. Clean natural gas is rapidly encroaching on it. That said, remember this when people try to say that electric cars are "clean". The majority of the electricity used to charge them comes from coal generated electricity. Coal, hydroelectric, and nuclear produce most of our electricity by far. Solar and wind are starting to make inroads but their contribution is still just a tiny fraction of the "big 3". Luckily "clean coal", more accurately called "less dirty coal", is becoming more or our coal picture in the U.S. Every little bit helps. All this said, it's important to remember that even dirty coal has done more to elevate humans out of poverty worldwide than most anything else. So no need at all to feel guilty. Not in Canada! In Ontario NO electricity comes from coal. Guilt Fed By Dependence On CoalI love electricity. My electricity was best when it came from a coal-fired power plant. I'd relish waiting at a RR crossing when a long, beautiful, coal train rolled by on the way to the turbine generators. At home I built a scale model coal train and ran hopper cars between the dining room and the living room. Coal mines seemed romantic in my mind, even though I've never actually seen one. The idea of little coal-cars running on small-gauge tracks deep into a mountainside with helmut-lamps appealed to my masculine side and I considered a career change. Doctors in coal country have never had such full waiting rooms since the days of black-lung disease. The hazy gray sulfur smog that clung to the air for up to 50-miles around the generating plants was a dramatic introduction to the metropolitan region for automobile visitors heading toward town. Trump wants to make coal first again. He is a smart man. I like him very much. I can see him and me with miner's hats making our way deep in a coal-cave in West Virginia. Our faces would turn black and we'd be proud Americans.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Nov 20, 2017 16:45:32 GMT
Mark, You seem to be right about Ontario, but according to this Canadian government web site 9.5% of Canada's electricity comes from coal. "Fossil fuels are the second most important source of electricity in Canada. About 9.5 per cent of electricity supply comes from coal, 8.5 per cent from natural gas and 1.3 per cent from petroleum. Fossil fuel generation is particularly important in Alberta and Saskatchewan, where several power stations have been built adjacent to large coal deposits. Fossil fuel generation is also important in the Atlantic Provinces, Northwest Territories and Nunavut. Ontario used to rely heavily on coal-fired generation; however, in April 2014, the last coal-fired generating capacity was shut down." Canada is blessed with an abundance of hydro-electric, as is the U.S Pacific Northwest. About ElectricityCoal may still be the number one source of electricity generation in the U.S. but it will never achieve the dominance it once had due to market forces. Clean natural gas is rapidly encroaching on it. That said, remember this when people try to say that electric cars are "clean". The majority of the electricity used to charge them comes from coal generated electricity. Coal, hydroelectric, and nuclear produce most of our electricity by far. Solar and wind are starting to make inroads but their contribution is still just a tiny fraction of the "big 3". Luckily "clean coal", more accurately called "less dirty coal", is becoming more or our coal picture in the U.S. Every little bit helps. All this said, it's important to remember that even dirty coal has done more to elevate humans out of poverty worldwide than most anything else. So no need at all to feel guilty. Not in Canada! In Ontario NO electricity comes from coal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 16:56:14 GMT
Project Idea
We could build the world's smallest coal fueled power plants and each use one to electrify our radio transmitters!
It's still possible to buy coal at the local level, a neighbor had a truckload delivered to his home for some kind of use he's got going.
As a gift idea we could give bricks of coal wrapped in see-through plastic!
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Post by mark on Nov 20, 2017 16:57:18 GMT
Nuclear power is the majority of electricity generation in Canada.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Nov 20, 2017 17:02:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 17:46:31 GMT
Canada, unlike the current U.S. administration, accepts the fact of climate change, and is working to eliminate coal fired energy. It does remain an important source in some provinces, at least right now.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Nov 20, 2017 18:04:50 GMT
Canada, unlike the current U.S. administration, accepts the fact of climate change, and is working to eliminate coal fired energy. It does remain an important source in some provinces, at least right now. What is amazing is that the Department of Defense says the greatest threat to national security is Climate Change.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Nov 20, 2017 18:35:42 GMT
Without coal many people in third world countries are reduced to burning animal dung for cooking and heating, and breathing in the toxic fumes. They long ago consumed all the wood for burning in their areas. While I have a wood stove for heating, some of my neighbors do have coal stoves and you can have it delivered in 50 lb bags. Coal burns much hotter than wood so don't try it in a wood stove. You must have a stove designed to burn coal.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 18:52:31 GMT
Druid Hills Radio said "What is amazing is that the Department of Defense says the greatest threat to national security is Climate Change."
It's pretty difficult to defend borders when those borders are under water.
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Post by jimhenry2000 on Nov 21, 2017 4:14:14 GMT
I think the U.S government does accept climate change. The earth's climate has been changing since the beginning of time. Far more nebulous are the claims that human activity impacts climate change. Even so, the U.S. has made great strides in reducing CO2 emissions as well as other air and water pollution in the last 40 years. Canada, unlike the current U.S. administration, accepts the fact of climate change, and is working to eliminate coal fired energy. It does remain an important source in some provinces, at least right now.
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Post by mark on Nov 21, 2017 5:02:14 GMT
I think the U.S government does accept climate change. The earth's climate has been changing since the beginning of time. Far more nebulous are the claims that human activity impacts climate change. Even so, the U.S. has made great strides in reducing CO2 emissions as well as other air and water pollution in the last 40 years. Canada, unlike the current U.S. administration, accepts the fact of climate change, and is working to eliminate coal fired energy. It does remain an important source in some provinces, at least right now. Yes, The US has made great strides but this administration wants to undermine everything....fire up the coal plants, bring back the acid rain problem and let the great lakes go back to the way they were before. If climate change is a "great" threat to the USA why did Trump walk away from the accord and say the US will not be part of this? Mark
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 13:44:19 GMT
Taking Loose Talk To Task
Jim Henry made a nebulous remark: "Far more nebulous are the claims that human activity impacts climate change."
Then, Mr. Henry seemingly contradicts his first remark by this second one: "Even so, the U.S. has made great strides in reducing CO2 emissions as well as other air and water pollution in the last 40 years."
If the first statement is true, the second statement wouldn't have any purpose.
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