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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 1:29:06 GMT
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Comment: A previous thread on this subject exists but I looked for it for 30-minutes and can't find it.
Part 15 stations are not required to give their location, but may give a location if so desired.
Therefore a part 15 station could give any location desired, even if it's nowhere near the station.
After considering several actual world locations, I settled recently on FEMA Region VII, an area of several states in the U.S. Midwaste.
But now I'm having third thoughts.
What about fake locations? Places that don't exist?
KDX from Tower Mountain, Arkansas.
KDX from Money Island, South Pacific, built on top of the giant plastic dead zone.
KDX from Carl's Mother's House, Bus Line 59.
KDX from Refurbished Circus Train, rolling into Springfield, Illinois.
KDX from the TeamSpeak High Rise overlooking the ALPB International Complex.
KDX from a Solar Powered Drone at 10,000 feet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 13:17:49 GMT
One has to ask, why would someone want to falsify their location? Are we that afraid to stand out and be noticed?
After all, it certainly wouldn't prevent someone from finding the origin of the radio signal.
Falsifying location displays a sense of paranoia and fear. Much less appropriate than giving no location at all.
A general, non specific announcement of location such as Planet Earth or Third Rock from the Sun would be good.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 14:15:32 GMT
Narrow and Uptight
It has been asked: "One has to ask, why would someone want to falsify their location? Are we that afraid to stand out and be noticed?"
A. Hobby radio is a form of play and make-believe. Extending the game to include a fantasy location could be merely part of the fun.
B. Standing out and being noticed can go against an innocent broadcaster when a stupid person comes to the wrong conclusion and causes needless problems.
And this: "Falsifying location displays a sense of paranoia and fear."
C. Reading "paranoia and fear" into it reveals how you think but is not automatically a fact, and could instead demonstrate a sense of freedom and creativity.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 14:48:19 GMT
Who's there???
I'm not Paranoid but that doesn't mean there isn't someone out to get me...
I'd hate to think a "sense of freedom and creativity" is based on paranoia and fear. Kind of an oxymoron.
To say "a stupid person comes to the wrong conclusion and causes needless problems" is reason to hide is just sad.
Lion's and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 16:07:58 GMT
Don't Try It Without Knocking It
Make light of it at your own risk: "Lion's and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!"
KDX Worldround Radio is 1-mile from a world renowned zoo and at any time there could be an escaped animal and it would come straight here because we maintain a small forest.
When I take the trash out to the street I am always wary not only of zoo animals, but loose neighborhood pit bulls, german shepherds, and children with B-B guns.
And lately many large objects have been falling from space.
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Post by Admin on Apr 9, 2018 1:20:05 GMT
Or, KDX, "broadcasting live from the depths of the Oak Island Money Pit, Nova Scotia!" City of UnlicenseComment: A previous thread on this subject exists but I looked for it for 30-minutes and can't find it. Part 15 stations are not required to give their location, but may give a location if so desired. Therefore a part 15 station could give any location desired, even if it's nowhere near the station. After considering several actual world locations, I settled recently on FEMA Region VII, an area of several states in the U.S. Midwaste. But now I'm having third thoughts. What about fake locations? Places that don't exist? KDX from Tower Mountain, Arkansas. KDX from Money Island, South Pacific, built on top of the giant plastic dead zone. KDX from Carl's Mother's House, Bus Line 59. KDX from Refurbished Circus Train, rolling into Springfield, Illinois. KDX from the TeamSpeak High Rise overlooking the ALPB International Complex. KDX from a Solar Powered Drone at 10,000 feet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 3:40:54 GMT
Good place to be from!Admin knows: " Or, KDX, "broadcasting live from the depths of the Oak Island Money Pit, Nova Scotia!"" Canadian rules, slightly better FM power, up to two listeners! Oak Island
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Post by thelegacy on Apr 9, 2018 4:27:53 GMT
It's not hard to track a signal but as the FCC agent who visited me said as Lon as I run legal and follow good etiquette there is nothing a nosey Parker or jealous station can Legally do.
Enjoy the hobby.
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Post by mark on Apr 9, 2018 4:56:44 GMT
That sounds cool making up a location where you are coming from, even a fictitious place.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 15:51:09 GMT
Brain Has a Thought
Then this morning I realized that a website is a location!
KDX coming from kdxradio.com! That's where we are! It's on all the maps.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 16:54:12 GMT
Still Pondering This
At least one of you had a negative view of "fake" location claims by a part 15 or low power radio station, which was very one-sided and overlooked the "fun" aspect of diddling with the hobby.
But let's talk about "honesty" and "literalism" as a way of being totally truthful, open, trustworthy, a station of its word, so to speak...
It would be deceptive, in my opinion, to say that "This is WINDY, a low power station from the Windy City of Chicago", because these tiny stations don't serve whole cities. Such a station would cover maybe one block, or 1/10,000 of the city.
Therefore total honesty would require saying, "This is WINDY, serving the 500 block of 11th Street between Oregon Street and Michigan Avenue".
We might even check Platt Maps of the city and grab a Lot # and also mention the GPS Longitude/Latitude of the station.
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Post by thelegacy on Apr 12, 2018 14:40:55 GMT
Its OK to say "This is The Legacy from thelegacy.shorturl.com" because your telling your audience that your simulcasting your Internet stream to part 15 AM. Your not giving out your address and still not falsifying anything either. Remember we want to not act like we have anything to hide. That's because Pirates Hide and that in of itself makes you look guilty of something less than lawful even if you're not intending to break the law. I hope this makes sense to any and all of you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 15:23:50 GMT
Obedient Citizens of the Police State
TheLegacy says: "Remember we want to not act like we have anything to hide."
I understand TheLegacy's message and it is certainly the way a majority of people have been trained to think.
But it is not against the law to hide something... the whole "What have you got to hide" taunt is a psychological cattle-prod trying to provoke a confession without obtaining a search warrant. It is intimidating, rude, and a police-state tactic, and is the real crime being aimed at innocent citizens.
The correct answer to "What have you got to hide" is "What have you got to look for?" and also, by the way, no answer is legally required. Any answer is done voluntarily out of fear and an attempt to prove innocence in the face of an improper inference of guilt. It's a psychological tactic.
And "acting like we have nothing to hide" is exactly what a guilty person would do, so it's not a reasonable way of avoiding trouble. If I had a trunk full of stolen flower pots I would not want to act like I had nothing to hide, I would ask for a search warrant.
We are not required to do anything that is not required by law. The FCC rules do not require us to give any location and the rules state we can choose to have an identifying station name or not have one, as we chose. The only requirement is that part 15 stations not use an identifier that can be confused with a licensed station.
Therefore giving a fantasy location is not against the rules. It is legal to hide our location by what's said on the air.
We are smart enough to know that the FCC can locate a radio station using their technology and what we say or don't say on the microphone makes no difference.
At the same time we can be legally hiding ourselves from listeners who might jump to the wrong notion if they knew you were next door. As we know there are people who are not properly informed about legal part 15 radio and are therefore someone from whom to conceal knowledge that they might misuse.
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