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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2018 13:57:43 GMT
Tim has a format that is not available on terrestrial Radio or LPFM in his areaThe general public loves his station and even his boss at a commercial station he worked for didn't see it as a threat after he explained what he was playing.... ..Avoiding complaints because you have something to offer is a good thing. This way if your not 100% by the book your not likely to see an issue. Too high of a profile and too low of public interest in your station could be the ticket to getting your station shut down. Just some observations I'm seeing. And by al means don't cause harmful interference. Check your stuff regularly to make sure its clean. Well .. yeah I guess, if your operating well beyond the legal limits, then I guess it's best to try and keep a low profile. But I meant if your operating within a limited area of acceptable range (per transmitter).
But you may have a good point about having a format which is not similar to the licensed stations of your area; Radio Sausalito is a Jazz format, but had they been a pop or rock station or something then maybe their station wouldn't have endured the 18 years they've been on air so far, because when it comes down to it even a 100% legal part 15 station can be shut down (the leeway goes both ways!), although it's not nearly as likely to happen.
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2018 14:03:56 GMT
Know Your PigsWe know what TheLegacy means: " Don't let the media interview your station because remember other broadcasting companies will also find out and they'll squeal like a stuffed pig." I just don't agree with that Carl. Just because there have been part 15 stations which have been interviewed that had later got shut down, does not mean it had anything to do with the NOUO. There have probally been more part 15 stations interviewed and published in the media which have resulted in no ill effects at all, on the contrary it helped promote them. So I just don't think that's true. |
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Jan 18, 2018 15:03:51 GMT
Tim has a format that is not available on terrestrial Radio or LPFM in his areaThe general public loves his station and even his boss at a commercial station he worked for didn't see it as a threat after he explained what he was playing.... ..Avoiding complaints because you have something to offer is a good thing. This way if your not 100% by the book your not likely to see an issue. Too high of a profile and too low of public interest in your station could be the ticket to getting your station shut down. Just some observations I'm seeing. And by al means don't cause harmful interference. Check your stuff regularly to make sure its clean. Well .. yeah I guess, if your operating well beyond the legal limits, then I guess it's best to try and keep a low profile. But I meant if your operating within a limited area of acceptable range (per transmitter).
But you may have a good point about having a format which is not similar to the licensed stations of your area; Radio Sausalito is a Jazz format, but had they been a pop or rock station or something then maybe their station wouldn't have endured the 18 years they've been on air so far, because when it comes down to it even a 100% legal part 15 station can be shut down (the leeway goes both ways!), although it's not nearly as likely to happen.
Tim's installation using the Procaster is 100% legit. He uses NO ground lead. |
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Jan 18, 2018 15:12:00 GMT
Test photo from the FCC showing the 30 plus inch ground lead:  |
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2018 15:38:31 GMT
Your link is giving a "HTTP 403 Forbidden. The website declined to show this webpage" error. But I've seen the photo your talking about before.
Also, I didn't say Tim wasn't legal, nor was I insinuating he wasn't, if you re-read my preceding post I was actually using his station as a good example of what a true part 15 station could be. |
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Jan 18, 2018 16:19:18 GMT
Your link is giving a "HTTP 403 Forbidden. The website declined to show this webpage" error. But I've seen the photo your talking about before.
Also, I didn't say Tim wasn't legal, nor was I insinuating he wasn't, if you re-read my preceding post I was actually using his station as a good example of what a true part 15 station could be. Sorry. I was responding to TheLegacy. I should have been more clear. |
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2018 17:14:59 GMT
Oh, I misunderstood. What about the link?
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Jan 18, 2018 17:32:13 GMT
Oh, I misunderstood. What about the link? Yes I tested it it says the same thing so I guess one has to actually log into the FCC web site. Ill see if I can capture and re-post. |
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Jan 18, 2018 17:42:24 GMT
Your link is giving a "HTTP 403 Forbidden. The website declined to show this webpage" error. But I've seen the photo your talking about before.
Also, I didn't say Tim wasn't legal, nor was I insinuating he wasn't, if you re-read my preceding post I was actually using his station as a good example of what a true part 15 station could be. Fixed now. I edited my post with the picture. |
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2018 18:00:06 GMT
I notice the FCC website seems to restructure itself from time to time, it can be quite frustrating.. I see you replaced the link with the actual picture... cool,.. but would you post the link you had again? I was going to try it in the internet archive to pull it up ad see if there are more cause it's not the same one which I had seen before, (not that it matters) it doesn't appear to have been taken from the same location, but this other one is definitely also a Procaster certification test photo, also raised about 30": see the one shown about halfway down the page in this HB thread: www.hobbybroadcaster.net/community/index.php?topic=747.0 |
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Post by End80 on Jan 18, 2018 18:14:48 GMT
Here you go.. Yeah both pictures are from the same test. There are five pictures shown under the "Test Setup Photo's": apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=Y&application_id=rxRi1CFS%2FJ%2BPj9fFCPJlTw%3D%3D&fcc_id=VCJ-AMTX100
And get this, the manual submitted with the certifications says:
"Step 2. Install Location
Higher mounted antennas usually result in better range. The PROCASTER™ mounting bracket is
intended for mounting on a flat vertical surface. Optional kit # XXXXX allows pole mounting. Make
sure you can access the transmitter for tuning once it is in its final position. A good height above
earth ground is about 25 feet. The roof of a 2-storey building is a good choice."
Told you part 15 is convoluted!
Edit: Nope, that matter is addressed as excerpted below from the "Test Report":
---- 15.219(b) Total Length of the Transmission Line, Antenna and Ground Lead < 3 meters Yes*
* Note: Manufacturer has confirmed and listed as warning statement on page no.3 of the user manual.
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