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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 17:25:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2017 17:55:55 GMT
Great Technical Paper on Slinkys!
davidc, it's been a few years since I "toy shopped" for a couple of slinky coils after hearing about them for experimental antenna use. It took visiting more than one store since the first ones I ran across were made from plastic, but eventually I obtained two of the steel types.
The slinky coils have been in storage and not yet used for anything, so it's good to be reminded of them.
Given the fact that this type of steel is difficult to solder to, as mentioned in the linked article, I intend to use clip-leads.
Reading that the slinky does not hold its shape when hung under its own weight is something I had not previously thought about, and if hung vertically straight up-and-down would require special accommodations to control.
The paper shows an entirely other way of using the slinky that is a new idea to me.
Another great antenna paper suitable for printing!
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Dec 5, 2017 14:34:39 GMT
Apparently Bill W. from the Hobby Lobby liked your post.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2017 15:25:26 GMT
Hobby Lobby Janitor.
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Post by thelegacy on Dec 5, 2017 19:48:54 GMT
Nice to know Hobby Lobby agrees with something we say: Maybe we're on the upswing. Plus I have a feeling that if you use material that is too thick for low power (Micro power) Radio with an antenna too thick you may be cutting your nose off your face.
I've noticed that some of the overseas AM Transmitters are using thinner wire that comes with these units and some claim better range than the Talking House 5.0. Hey they may be onto something. Just a possibility that thicker is not always better when it comes to this flea powered Radio stuff.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Dec 5, 2017 20:07:56 GMT
Nice to know Hobby Lobby agrees with something we say:"Plus I have a feeling that if you use material that is too thick for low power (Micro power) Radio with an antenna too thick you may be cutting your nose off your face."What makes you say that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 1:25:46 GMT
I think we should block his IP address to stop this deliberate pillaging of ideas :-)
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Post by thelegacy on Dec 6, 2017 7:17:07 GMT
Screw it we were talking about helical antennas which do have a thinner material in them. And all I have to say is it was an idea no need to Black IP's. I know a better site where I'm invited screw all this crap anyway. The closed sites where I'm invited I can talk about wider ideas like that and not have an issue.
And you know what you've actually managed to get another person off your sites which had some good ideas and we're not talking about breaking the rules this time. Good job keep up the good work you'll have nobody on your site.
You guys are just too afraid to try experiments which could give you some better results with a 3 meter antenna. Thinner as opposed to thicker. If one approach doesn't work you should try something else and see what happens. And certainly not going to hurt to try. And if you look back in the Ham Radio Days many amateur radio operators did try different types of material thinner antennas thicker antennas different transmitters tend to act differently with different types of antennas. Just something to think about maybe you should go back to the old ham radio articles from popular Electronics you might find something very interesting. Some other sites I go to this is already been talked about but you know what I'm not going to reveal anymore. I'll let you find out for yourself mean well I'm going to go to that better site which is closed off to close minded people and I'll have my better range without having to do anything crazy to get it. Happy trails.
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Post by Boomer on Dec 6, 2017 11:27:00 GMT
Hi TheLegacy, I think they're talking about someone from another website.
I'd never ban classic rockers from anywhere, I think guitars will save music from the synth and beatboxes we have now!
Boom
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 14:35:05 GMT
Physical Elements of Antenna Science
TheLegacy says: "Thinner as opposed to thicker."
The different behavior of metals whether thin or thick is a measurable aspect of antenna science and no one says it isn't.
You should also consider density of the material, which I have always thought was as important as narrowness or wideness.
It is the natural course of things to occasionally get angry about things that can't be anticipated by anyone else and that's when it's satisfying to tell off the fools and leave the website, but the ALPB website is home and members are always welcome to come back.
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Dec 6, 2017 14:58:50 GMT
Screw it we were talking about helical antennas which do have a thinner material in them. And all I have to say is it was an idea no need to Black IP's. I know a better site where I'm invited screw all this crap anyway. The closed sites where I'm invited I can talk about wider ideas like that and not have an issue. And you know what you've actually managed to get another person off your sites which had some good ideas and we're not talking about breaking the rules this time. Good job keep up the good work you'll have nobody on your site. You guys are just too afraid to try experiments which could give you some better results with a 3 meter antenna. Thinner as opposed to thicker. If one approach doesn't work you should try something else and see what happens. And certainly not going to hurt to try. And if you look back in the Ham Radio Days many amateur radio operators did try different types of material thinner antennas thicker antennas different transmitters tend to act differently with different types of antennas. Just something to think about maybe you should go back to the old ham radio articles from popular Electronics you might find something very interesting. Some other sites I go to this is already been talked about but you know what I'm not going to reveal anymore. I'll let you find out for yourself mean well I'm going to go to that better site which is closed off to close minded people and I'll have my better range without having to do anything crazy to get it. Happy trails. Huh? I simply ask why do you think thinner material work best? My reasoning was that radio frequency current travels on the surface of the conductor. So I was confused by your comment. No need to run off.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 20:24:41 GMT
Peace Mediator
Concerned about TheLegacy's temporary resignation in a preceeding post, I went through this whole thread item by item and spotted the cause of the disruption... two different comments became conflated into a misunderstanding.
1.) It was mentioned that another website (Hobby Lobby) had "borrowed" the slinky antenna idea without giving credit to this website as the source. A moderator (kiddingly) posted the idea of blocking Hobby Lobby's IP address so they couldn't "take" any more of our original material.
2.) But in between those posts The Legacy was asked how he arrived at an opinion something to do with "thin wire" antennas, and mistakenly thought it was HIS website (The Initiative) that might get blocked.
It was a mistake anyone of us might have made, and it's important to let TheLegacy and his team know that YOU GUYS ARE FULL MEMBERS HERE AND VALUABLE RESOURCES FOR ALL THE RESEARCH WORK YOU DO!
Don't hate us! Come back around!
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Post by Druid Hills Radio on Dec 6, 2017 20:29:17 GMT
Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of BoB.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2017 23:09:00 GMT
Sending Praise Skyward
DHR speaks of- "The children of BoB."
BoB is my divine rod.
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Post by thelegacy on Dec 6, 2017 23:49:40 GMT
Yea I thought you were talking about banning my IP address for talking of using thinner antenna wires for AM 100 mW TX's due to the fact pee pee power does not do well with an antenna too thick.
The idea is discussed on a closed Elite site you must know hacker or Warez language to get an invite. Here is an example
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OK back to regular. That language was made up back in 1983 during the Commodore 64 and 128 days. It kind of shows my past just a bit. But I found the group by searching for things in that type of language.
Experiments have been done over there which suggests that we might get some better range by using some of that technology.
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