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Post by thelegacy on Jul 28, 2018 21:20:21 GMT
Radio's are available for the public like the Tecsun 380, 660, 880 that have variable or switchable bandwidth up to 6 Khz which makes AM sound great. Currently I've been very vocal on the RECNet's Facebook forum called Part 15 AM&FM Hobby Broadcasting. Michelle Bradley has taken my proposal for TIS power output for Hobby Broadcasting as a means to end the mess as a compromise.
Lets see if any big wig entities troll this forum where I posted in opposition of the idea. I will stay vocal and I have a few followers there who are in support of this. Looks like I'm slowly pushing my foot into a door that doesn't open easily and the pressure is certainly on. This is not going to be easily taken with open arms I do know.
Rebuttals and hard sales pitches will be something that will have to take place here. It does certainly have a far better chance than any FM initiative however.
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Post by Rich on Jul 28, 2018 21:48:37 GMT
Radio's are available for the public like the Tecsun 380, 660, 880 that have variable or switchable bandwidth up to 6 Khz which makes AM sound great. ... Are you thinking that they control the bandwidths of their r-f / i-f circuits to do that?
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Post by thelegacy on Jul 30, 2018 15:13:07 GMT
I'm sure they do. They also use signal processing to try and clear up the mess that AM is now. I'm also preaching the Gospel of what its going to take for Pamela Lee to legally erect a legal part 15 C-Quam AM Stereo station for her Album Rock, Classic Rock fans.
Since I don't live there I can't help but I'm willing to try and be the Rock messiah for Williamson, WV. It angers me to see all the hate from so-called professionals who just want to destroy for their sheer greed.
The best legal action is for Album Rockers to boycott terrestrial stations that are not either Hobby Broadcasters or LPFM stations. This means don't listen to them. Once their advertisers see there is no audience the big wigs will fall and the public will win in the end.
Its why I posted in their newspaper's facebook page all about how they can either just listen on the net or construct a network of part 15 C-Quam AM Stereo transmitters as well as suggesting they start an electronics shop to convert the crappy AM receivers to C-Quam compatible receivers. One cheap way would be to buy a whole bunch of Sangean, Tecsun, Grundig Radio's and then order Maducci C-Quam boards and put these inside the Radio's and sell the modified Radio's in your electronics shop. This will help this poor town and give the people what they want.
Next is to bring up the discrimination lawsuit and file for a break up of the Radio monopoly. This would mean outlawing milti station ownership for companies. They can only own one station in a given market. Then make a mandatory agreement that at least one 60dBuV station should be receivable that plays Classic Rock and Album Rock, Classical and Jazz, True Country in every small area of the USA and if not there shall not be another station erected with Pop, Rap until this is met. This may require stiff fines to companies who fail this requirement. The fines shall be over 100 million dollars for each violation and a 20 yr prison sentence for each offense. This would end all monopolistic Radio giants not willing to actually serve the people.
Williamson now has mad folks now is the time I can get them to my site to construct a petition he he he instant Karma is so wonderful.
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Post by mighty1650 on Jul 30, 2018 17:52:46 GMT
Next is to bring up the discrimination lawsuit and file for a break up of the Radio monopoly. This would mean outlawing milti station ownership for companies. They can only own one station in a given market. Then make a mandatory agreement that at least one 60dBuV station should be receivable that plays Classic Rock and Album Rock, Classical and Jazz, True Country in every small area of the USA and if not there shall not be another station erected with Pop, Rap until this is met. This may require stiff fines to companies who fail this requirement. The fines shall be over 100 million dollars for each violation and a 20 yr prison sentence for each offense. This would end all monopolistic Radio giants not willing to actually serve the people. Williamson now has mad folks now is the time I can get them to my site to construct a petition he he he instant Karma is so wonderful. Geeze, what did Pop do to you? Steal your bike?
The FCC is not in the business of regulating content.
By the way, if the one station per market rule ever existed there would be no such thing as "Album Rock". You might hate to read it but AM Pop Top 40 paid the bills for the FM rockers for a long time.
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Post by mark on Jul 30, 2018 23:29:30 GMT
Legacy said....."The fines shall be over 100 million dollars for each violation and a 20 yr prison sentence for each offense".
I'm almost speechless.
You mean a company that puts a rap station in a market without a classic rock or album rock there first or has more than one station in a market is as serious a crime as mass murder or terrorism?
Legacy, OK, we know you like album rock and you feel passed by but I think you've just lost it here.
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Post by thelegacy on Jul 31, 2018 6:09:43 GMT
When I say one station / Market I'm not only saying one station I mean one entity can only own one station per Market.
This means that more companies can have stations thus having a better variety.
As I've stated in the Williamson West Virginia newspaper Facebook page calling for album rockers to unite in a discrimination lawsuit.
I reminded them how the Bell system was broke up and the process that it was used to make that happen.
By breaking up the big entities you leave room for Mom and Pop stations to exist. This means an even playing field where citizens can set up legal radio stations that don't cause interference because they don't have to use illegal untested transmitter spewing out all the Chinese junk all over the band.
please don't try to take what I'm saying out of context I'm talking about one single entity right now can own over a hundred radio stations receivable in a single Market. if it were set down to one let's say Tim and bovey Minnesota wants to start his own radio station company there would be room on the dial because it would be only one radio station in bovey Minnesota bye a entity. for another radio station to exist in that very City it would have to be a different entity not the same company.
what I am proposing make sense Monopoly should not be tolerated. monopolies only hurt the public and yes monopolies are a form of terrorism just a different form of terrorism.
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Post by mark on Jul 31, 2018 15:24:34 GMT
The vast majority of stations in Canada and the USA are owned by a big corporation but there's nothing that stops a ma and pa station to exist. They didn't have to sell out to the corporations. As for one company not having more than a certain number of stations in one market I agree with. But it could be more than one as long as it's not duplicate programing.
But when I quoted you it wasn't out of context....I know what you were saying. What is off the top is law that a certain type of programing has to exist or 20 years in jail and a 100 million dollar fine!!
What if a ma and pa station want to have another also in the same market...does the 20 yeras in jail apply there? You can't have a law that dictates what product private enterprise can offer.....we are not in a total dictatorship here. You are too obsessed with what you like and sometimes you talk from emotion not logic.
There can't be a law of 20 years in jail if a classic rock station is left out of a market, or if a company owns two or more stations in a market. And what if a ma and pa station doesn't program classic rock and they are the only station in town, 20 years in jail??!!
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Post by mighty1650 on Jul 31, 2018 17:18:51 GMT
When I say one station / Market I'm not only saying one station I mean one entity can only own one station per Market. This means that more companies can have stations thus having a better variety. By breaking up the big entities you leave room for Mom and Pop stations to exist. This means an even playing field where citizens can set up legal radio stations that don't cause interference because they don't have to use illegal untested transmitter spewing out all the Chinese junk all over the band. please don't try to take what I'm saying out of context I'm talking about one single entity right now can own over a hundred radio stations receivable in a single Market. if it were set down to one let's say Tim and bovey Minnesota wants to start his own radio station company there would be room on the dial because it would be only one radio station in bovey Minnesota bye a entity. for another radio station to exist in that very City it would have to be a different entity not the same company. what I am proposing make sense Monopoly should not be tolerated. monopolies only hurt the public and yes monopolies are a form of terrorism just a different form of terrorism. I understood what you meant and I will reiterate what I said, Album Rock would not and could not have existed under the rules you propose. None of the early rockers were stand-alone operations, they were almost universally tied to a more profitable AM signal. Album rock existed only because station owners had an extra signal in a band that almost no one listened to.
I do not disagree with market caps, in fact we have them now. It is impossible for any one company to own "Over a hundered radio stations recievable in a single Market". The current cap is 5 in the biggest markets, otherwise the cap is determined by the number of signals based on population for a market area. It would be unwise to limit that to one station per entity, hell many mom & pops are AM/FM combos. Even my mom & pop company owns 3 full power signals and an FM translator.
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Post by mark on Jul 31, 2018 18:25:55 GMT
To add to Mighty 1650's comment, back when album rock became a radio program genera, there was a programing rule that FM radio had to offer programing different from AM and one of the stipulations, at least here in Canada, was an FM station couldn't play more than 50% "hits" so there was born album rock (along with jazz and classical) played on FM. Every FM station was supported by an AM station or album rock stations couldn't exist.
But sometime around the beginning of the eighties this programing rule was lifted and now you could have country and top 40 stations on FM like you do now and album rock evolved into classic rock and classic rock is from that era but plays mostly hits or songs that were released as "singles".
And classic rock stations play nothing like what was played on album rock stations back in the late 60s to mid 70s.
Do you think you will hear MC5, Wishbone Ash, Fever Tree, Country Joe and the Fish, West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band, Frost, and on and on, on classic rock stations?, and I will add to that Frank Zappa and the Mothers Of Invention and the many many others that would have no radio play if it weren't for the FM stations that "had" to offer this due to the programing rules. Don't get me wrong, it was good that it was like this, it was a real alternative, but Legacy, don't get so emotional that you say some "crazy" things like it's a form of "terrorism" if radio doesn't play what you like. I will say what I said before, with our hobby stations we can keep on the radio what is not offered now.
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Post by mighty1650 on Jul 31, 2018 18:35:36 GMT
And to add to Mark's comment, the formats get even crazier than that.
Classic Rock as it is now was originally called Classic Hits, hence why the current (and past) formats focus mostly on the rock hits. Granted the format does vary a bit from station to station, some play only the same hits over and over while some others tend to dig a bit deeper. Typically the real old rock stations will dig in a bit deeper than newcomers to the format.
Even then AOR was heavily commercialized and programmed compared to the Progressive Rock format that it replaced. In the US AOR stations actually did follow a chart, some were more freeform than others however.
Edit: Don't forget about your Can-Con rules too Mark! Canadian radio has always been a bit different as a result.
Double Edit: The FCC had similar rules in the 60s and 70s where an FM station couldn't simulcast an AM more than a certain percentage of their time.
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Post by thelegacy on Jul 31, 2018 20:16:02 GMT
Not to put down Christians in any way but how many God Casters do you need? Forbid when a temperature inversion comes I pick more God casters than Music Casters parden the pun. I feel too as a Metaphysical person who also studies Hindu and Wicca and often love to cast healing spells to try and heal the sick. A Wicca station can tell the audience how to put together a healing rod as the schematics are in the book Crystal Magic. Not all people use Black Magic who practice Wicca and I don't see why not have stations like that too on air.
The Moody Blues talks about Metaphysics in the song The Word/Om so again this is not Satanic. I think a fairness needs to be observed on Radio this is a good venture for Hobby Broadcasters.
But more importantly I got a few more people to help Pamela Lee too That Kevin dude after I explained my intentions now admitted he has a part 15 station going 2 miles. I think in her area she has a good chance. If she gets the transmitter near Water even better as the signal will really get out. With a conjugation of listener with High Sensitive Radio's like I published she has a chance to do well and it could convience some to follow suit making AM a good broadcast band again. When Everyone buys Tecsun, C. Crane, or Sangean Radio's everyone loving AOR wins this battle.
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Post by mark on Jul 31, 2018 20:51:10 GMT
Mighty 1650 said...Don't forget about your Can-Con rules too Mark! Canadian radio has always been a bit different as a result.
Yup, a lot of Canadian bands had good success because of that but in the album rock days that hadn't come into effect yet. I think it was early to mid seventies that the can-con came into effect so that artists could stay in Canada and not have to leave here to have success.
It has it's flaws though as when A/C D/C came to Vancouver to record an album they met 2 of the 5 requirements and could get played as a "Canadian band". If Shania Twain had an album recorded and produced outside of Canada doesn't qualify for Canadian content even though she's as Canadian as can be.
The Can-con rules only apply from 6AM to 6PM daily. So all evening and night no Canadian content has to be played. A station could be all Elvis from 6PM to 6AM Another rule is that, the same song can't be repeated more than once every 3 hours to force variety.
On my hobby station a BETS-1 station is not required to play can-con but I do and have at least 20% Canadian bands/singers.
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Post by thelegacy on Jul 31, 2018 21:24:42 GMT
I play a lot of Canadian bands too. Some of which most folks haven't heard from in quite sometime. Bands like Touch, Budgie, Honeymoon Suite, The Guess Who, Max Webster, Kim Mitchell, So many more as Canada Rocks for Album Rock. Some of the best Rock I've heard comes from Canada and the UK.
Oh Album Rockers in Drift, Ky want to broadcast my signal on part 15 AM. Told them to get a procaster and I'll give them the non commercial link! Bring yet another town closee to Williamson, WV out of the ashes of Radio Hell by our heartfelt help. I sure hope they get their 2 miles too. Kaito is gonna get a lot of orders for Tecsun Radio's hope they can keep up!!
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Post by Admin on Jul 31, 2018 23:45:25 GMT
Oh Album Rockers in Drift, Ky want to broadcast my signal on part 15 AM. Told them to get a procaster and I'll give them the non commercial link!Bring yet another town closee to Williamson, WV out of the ashes of Radio Hell by our heartfelt help. I sure hope they get their 2 miles too. Kaito is gonna get a lot of orders for Tecsun Radio's hope they can keep up!! Interesting, so you can feed a stream to them? Please let us know how this goes and if they actually buy a Procaster and do it. Thanks. Jim
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Post by thelegacy on Aug 1, 2018 19:17:30 GMT
Yup could use MakeAVoice, MyRAdioStream, or several others. This would eliminate the commercials that the public hears on my Internet stream. Even my part 15 no ads are played. I'll let you know if they do this but this is what I'm suggesting to them.
I see a turn of the tide after this major event.
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